grappler-of-old 44 Report post Posted January 27, 2011 Very true Oldie:But whoever is in the pool with Ryle and the seeded team (either Larue, Trinity, JC, or UC) will have a long day ahead of them. Thats a tough pool to come out of. It would be a shame if Ryle pools Trinity or UC in their pool. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fireplug 2 Report post Posted January 27, 2011 I am sure all the other teams feel the same about being in the same pools with union or trinity and that it would be a shame. My bigger question is if that match to determ the seed was that important, why did ryle wrestle the jv kids? Surely they knew that was going to be the match for the 1 seed at state duals.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oldwrestler81 6 Report post Posted January 27, 2011 Ryle goes to a large Ohio tournament that weekend. There has been deate a few years now about trying to change the date. Simon Kenton also went to this tournament and sent their JV to the conferance Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Josh_Claywell 52 Report post Posted January 27, 2011 If they seed the second teer then they should get the weakest 1 seed.With Ryle not even being the top seed out of its region, why do you think it should be a No. 1 at State Duals? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pridewrestler 0 Report post Posted January 27, 2011 Don't they seed the top 4 #1 seeds there are and then throw in everyone else, while keeping regional opponents on the opposite side of the bracket? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Crusader 0 Report post Posted January 28, 2011 1st- Trinity2nd- Union County3rd- Larue County4th- Ryle5th- Johnson Central6th- Oldham County7th- St. X8th- Southern Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oldwrestler81 6 Report post Posted January 28, 2011 Uh Oh some snow on the ground and school delays this am in Northern Ky. what about the rest of the state? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jbigdaddy 8 Report post Posted January 28, 2011 Jefferson County is on a normal schedule today, I think the first time in the last three years. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sigep567 3 Report post Posted January 28, 2011 St. X and Trinity can't both be #1 seeds. Lafayette or Woodford have to be one of the #1 seeds. None of it really matters. The top 4 teams will be seeded...possibly a 5th and the rest of the teams will be drawn in and kept on opposite sides of the bracket. Trinity, Union, LaRue, and Johnson Central will most likely be the #1's in that order. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BigCoach 3 Report post Posted January 28, 2011 Let me throw this out for consideration. According to the state dual guidelines the coaches have developed over the past few years (yep, all written down and sent out to each coach attending each year) the seeds are based on records and head to head competition. What does this mean? Union has a loss, to Trinity, LaRue and Johnson Central have no losses. So based on the criteria for seeding, the number one seed will most likely be Trinity since they have a win over a top team, the second and third seeds will be LaRue and Johnson Central and who cares in what order as 2 and 3 gains no advantage and if they win their pools they meet in semis, and the 4th seed is Union. So, most likely, Union and Trinity meet in semis if they win their pools.The real fun will be after the top four teams are seeded and "The Pill Bottle" comes out. That is when the rest of the teams are placed in pools. Since Ryle and St. X are #2's out of their regions, they are going into a pool with either, LaRue, Johnson Centrl and Union and Ryle could go with Trinity.Just like the individual state touranment, so much will be decided upon the luck of the draw! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RYP 13 Report post Posted January 28, 2011 Big Coach, you have the Trinity vs. Union result wrong. Union beat Trinity by 3 @ the Harrison duals in December. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pridewrestler 0 Report post Posted January 28, 2011 Yeh union beat trinity back a while ago when both trams were missing quite a few wrestlers Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BigCoach 3 Report post Posted January 28, 2011 Oops, then reverse that, Union would be the one and Trinity the 4 seed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RYP 13 Report post Posted January 28, 2011 Big Coach, why are you assuming that Trinity could not be the #2 or #3 seed? A loss to the #1 seed would not prohibit Trinity being #2. The only head to head is Trinity vs. Union. The last head to head between Trinity and Larue or Johnson Central was at the state tournament last year. Trinity finished 100 pts ahead of Larue and Johnson Central. I say Union #1, Trinity #2, Larue #3, and Johnson Central #4. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eville dad 17 Report post Posted January 28, 2011 When do they draw the brackets?Does anyone know the start time and if they have a time scheduled for the finals? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest cmccoy Report post Posted January 28, 2011 The brackets will be drawn in the morning. Wrestling is scheduled to begin at 9:30 with finals starting at 7:30. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Josh_Claywell 52 Report post Posted January 29, 2011 Big Coach, why are you assuming that Trinity could not be the #2 or #3 seed? A loss to the #1 seed would not prohibit Trinity being #2. The only head to head is Trinity vs. Union. The last head to head between Trinity and Larue or Johnson Central was at the state tournament last year. Trinity finished 100 pts ahead of Larue and Johnson Central. I say Union #1, Trinity #2, Larue #3, and Johnson Central #4.LaRue and Johnson Central, I believe, are both undefeated in duals whereas Trinity is not (someone correct me if I'm wrong). Overall record is one of the seeding criteria. Based on that, LaRue and Johnson Central should be seeded above Trinity.And it shouldn't matter what happened last season. It's about what you've done this season. The individual state tournament should have no bearing on seeding for the duals. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Josh_Claywell 52 Report post Posted January 29, 2011 LaRue County beats Union County to move into the finals. Against who, I'm not sure yet. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FalconWrestling 147 Report post Posted January 29, 2011 LaRue County beats Union County to move into the finals. Against who, I'm not sure yet.what was the match by match results? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dagger 7 Report post Posted January 29, 2011 40-28 LaRue Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pridewrestler 0 Report post Posted January 30, 2011 Union gets fourth losing to Ryle 38-36. Missing Keaton Thomas was big time today for the braves. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pridewrestler 0 Report post Posted January 30, 2011 Union lost to larue in the semis 40-35 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Josh_Claywell 52 Report post Posted January 30, 2011 what was the match by match results?I don't have any results yet. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
breeser 0 Report post Posted January 30, 2011 Meade Co. 215 Simota pined Shamon Brown today at state duals. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Josh_Claywell 52 Report post Posted January 30, 2011 Your 2011 State Duals champs: LaRue County.breeser: Shouldn't that be on the rankings thread? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
