snapdown133 0 Report post Posted July 28, 2008 Maybe someone can help me out with this, I just moved into the area and i've noticed some differences in the wrestling technique from state to state. I am from Georgia and we were always taught to wrestle a very heavy handed style that focused for on moving an opponent into a setup on their feet and less on basic head popping for a shot. From top i've noticed that leg riding is a big favorite and from what I have observed so far only a few top level wrestlers in the state have any real technique and most others seem to be stalling. I really don't see much crab riding or kids learning how to run a legit bar series. I understand that it's really just a conflict in styles (mine for one) but I have yet to see more than 2 types of tilts in any one match. There again I have not been in Ky that long. From the bottom position I see kids trying to sit out like there in middle school and simply stalling on bottom, what ever happened to a nice explosive stand-up... back pressure, wrist control, cut out, and re-shoot. Let me know what your opinions are on the topic so that I can better understand what county I need to move into to get a quality coach for my kid. :? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DrCradle 0 Report post Posted July 28, 2008 You have made a very interesting comment....What school will you be attending next year?Below are points scored (according to state) at Fargo this past weekend. this will give you an insight to the wrestling in kentucky.Total All-American Points 1st Pennsylvania 523 2nd Ohio 476 3rd New Jersey 427 4th Illinois 390 5th Iowa 349 6th Missouri 339 7th Minnesota 295 8th California 292 9th Oklahoma 204 10th New York 203 11th Washington 191 12th Oregon 185 13th Michigan 176 14th Indiana 171 15th Kansas 164 16th Colorado 130 17th Utah 112 18th Florida 109 19th Idaho 107 20th Wisconsin 103 21st Virginia 89 22nd Delaware 80 23rd Maryland 69 24th Texas 66 25th Nebraska 51 26th (t) Georgia 48 Montana 48 28th Arizona 41 29th Massachusetts 35 30th New Mexico 34 31st North Carolina 32 32nd North Dakota 30 33rd Connecticut 29 34th West Virginia 27 35th Alabama 21 36th South Dakota 19 37th Wyoming 18 38th Puerto Rico 14 39th Alaska 12 40th Rhode Island 9 41st Hawaii 8 42nd (t) Louisiana 6 South Carolina 6 Tennessee 6 45th Armed Forces 5 46th (t) Maine 4 Nevada 4 48th Team Okinawa 2 49th (t) Arkansas 0 Guam 0 Kentucky 0 Mississippi 0 New Hampshire 0 Vermont 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
snapdown133 0 Report post Posted July 28, 2008 Man I guess Ky wrestling has a little room for improvement...hopefully by the time my son is old enough to wrestle in high school the results will be different. Thank you for the information. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bobbysanders 0 Report post Posted July 29, 2008 man, maybe it's time Kentucky got on the ball. wow, not even a point. That just breaks my heart Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
snapdown133 0 Report post Posted July 29, 2008 well lets keep plugging away and drilling good solid technique into these young wrestlers and hopefully we can change those stats. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kywrfan 0 Report post Posted July 29, 2008 You have to consider though, How many KY kids were even in the tournament? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
snapdown133 0 Report post Posted July 29, 2008 I understand that wrestling is still a new sport in Ky and i'm not trying to downplay the talent here. I can't wait to see how this season pans out, I missed the first part of the season due to my move here so i'm ready for the season to begin. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Danger 0 Report post Posted July 29, 2008 Did anyone else notice that Guam was on there? lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rebel_wrestler_171 0 Report post Posted July 29, 2008 so is Okinawa Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
snapdown133 0 Report post Posted July 29, 2008 so is OkinawaEven Mr. Miyagi's home town scored some points. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wrestling Dad 99 Report post Posted July 29, 2008 Snapdown: Where do you live? My kids are out of high school now, but my three sons wrestled in Missouri, Tennessee and Kentucky, and in tournaments in those states plus Alabama, Indiana, Georgia, West Virginia, Ohio, Illinois and Oklahoma. You are correct, there are a handful of top wrestlers with "excellent" technique, especially running a series of moves from the neutral, top or bottom positions. My kids had been wrestling since they were 4 or 5 years old when they hit high school, which is the norm in most wrestling states (except perhaps for the big guys). Not so much in Kentucky, with the exception of a few programs like Union County, who wrestle their younger kids in southern Indiana in AAU and USA tournaments.If you let us know generally where you live, I could let you know who I think are top technicians and teachers. There are a few good programs with coaches that have D1 background. Several of these programs take their kids out of state during the season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
snapdown133 0 Report post Posted July 29, 2008 Snapdown: Where do you live? My kids are out of high school now, but my three sons wrestled in Missouri, Tennessee and Kentucky, and in tournaments in those states plus Alabama, Indiana, Georgia, West Virginia, Ohio, Illinois and Oklahoma. You are correct, there are a handful of top wrestlers with "excellent" technique, especially running a series of moves from the neutral, top or bottom positions. My kids had been wrestling since they were 4 or 5 years old when they hit high school, which is the norm in most wrestling states (except perhaps for the big guys). Not so much in Kentucky, with the exception of a few programs like Union County, who wrestle their younger kids in southern Indiana in AAU and USA tournaments.If you let us know generally where you live, I could let you know who I think are top technicians and teachers. There are a few good programs with coaches that have D1 background. Several of these programs take their kids out of state during the season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
snapdown133 0 Report post Posted July 29, 2008 Woops... sorry hit the wrong button.My wife and I have just relocated on the Meade - Breckinridge county area. Our property straddles the west side of Meade County. We know that there is a program in the works at Meade Co. but we don't know how long we will stay in this area. We may be looking to relocate to an area that in the next few years in order to get him off on the right foot. I myself wrestled middle thru college and can't wait till he is old enough to get on the mat. Any info about top programs in the state would be very helpful. Thank you Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dog101 1 Report post Posted July 29, 2008 you may want ot look at the no-ox program (club) in northern hardin/ vine grove area. Joe B. teaches the style of wrestling you like. some very good wrestlers work with him - alot of the central and john hardin wrestlers work with him.Woops... sorry hit the wrong button.My wife and I have just relocated on the Meade - Breckinridge county area. Our property straddles the west side of Meade County. We know that there is a program in the works at Meade Co. but we don't know how long we will stay in this area. We may be looking to relocate to an area that in the next few years in order to get him off on the right foot. I myself wrestled middle thru college and can't wait till he is old enough to get on the mat. Any info about top programs in the state would be very helpful. Thank you Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
grappler-of-old 44 Report post Posted July 29, 2008 If Jr. is really young then you have time. My recomendation would be.1. Go to as many local events as possible. That part of the state has a tourney close by (withing 1 hour) almost every weekend. 2. Go to some tourneys in other parts of the state in which you may be interested in re-locating.3. Go to the State duals tourney held in Lexington every year.4. Go to the local regional tourney and most definately go to the state tourney.5. If you would like to stay put volunteer your time at Meade Co. or whichever team you think he may attend. If you have that amount of experience then they would love to have help.Dates and most times can be found on this site when the season gets started. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
snapdown133 0 Report post Posted July 29, 2008 If Jr. is really young then you have time. My recomendation would be.1. Go to as many local events as possible. That part of the state has a tourney close by (withing 1 hour) almost every weekend. 2. Go to some tourneys in other parts of the state in which you may be interested in re-locating.3. Go to the State duals tourney held in Lexington every year.4. Go to the local regional tourney and most definately go to the state tourney.5. If you would like to stay put volunteer your time at Meade Co. or whichever team you think he may attend. If you have that amount of experience then they would love to have help.Dates and most times can be found on this site when the season gets started. Excellent information and advice. I will find out who the Head Coach of Meade is and see if he would like some help. Worst case scenario, I burn a little gut off! Thanks again Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wrestling Dad 99 Report post Posted July 31, 2008 If you can move to a new home, I would go south of E-Town to Hodgenville. The coaches at Larue County, although a smaller school, are some of the best in Kentucky. I think you would be satisfied with North Hardin and their staff as well. Both have active youth programs to support the high school. Otherwise, you could drive up across the river to Corydon, IN, they have some good coaches as well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kywrestling 0 Report post Posted August 3, 2008 well idk i think ky has been doin good lately we have kyle rechell, myron bradbury, mason reid, brian piece, harrison courtny, matt zarth, and way back in the day nate carr and sullivan with the highest winning record in high score history anywhere Share this post Link to post Share on other sites