ridge45 0 Report post Posted February 10, 2008 I want it to be understood that I have no ill will towards Matt Neal. It is the behavior that needs to be corrected. I have been told by other individuals that he is a pleasant young man. I wish him well and hopefully next year will be his finest.Matt Neal is the wind beneath my wings. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
overweight 0 Report post Posted February 10, 2008 Well said! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
true pioneer 0 Report post Posted February 10, 2008 There was that one ref there that was horrible.. i saw at least 4 pins that the ref didn't get down quick enough for..bogus stalling calls, no stalling calls.petersons not be accounted for. takedowns not being counted for..all from one ref Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MrClean 0 Report post Posted February 10, 2008 There was that one ref there that was horrible.. i saw at least 4 pins that the ref didn't get down quick enough for..bogus stalling calls, no stalling calls.petersons not be accounted for. takedowns not being counted for..all from one refI does no good to complain about the refs. If the coaches think a ref does an overall decent job he will continue being used. I heard there is one ref that was at state last year that isn't invited this year. IF that's true then there is some accountability that makes refs try to do a good job. I think they have a tough job since they have to be alert all day with only short breaks. If wrestlers watch enough matches they will know what refs make certain calls and adjust their style to compensate. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wrestlewatcher 3 Report post Posted February 10, 2008 There was that one ref there that was horrible.. i saw at least 4 pins that the ref didn't get down quick enough for..bogus stalling calls, no stalling calls.petersons not be accounted for. takedowns not being counted for..all from one refAnd this has what to do with Matt Neal's conduct? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
true pioneer 0 Report post Posted February 10, 2008 it was also his ref loli didn't wrestle, i just don't like seeing a poor job being done by the refs especially at region.i haven't seen any of the refs before.I understand it is hard, but some seem to not try very hard. just an observation Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jo Momma 0 Report post Posted February 10, 2008 That official wouldn't happen to be a very large African-American gentleman by chance would it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MrClean 0 Report post Posted February 10, 2008 That official wouldn't happen to be a very large African-American gentleman by chance would it?I thought this thread was about Matt Neal! The thread for bad refs isn't supposed to be for another week. Every year right after state the complaining about refs thread is started, usually by 1:30PM. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
true pioneer 0 Report post Posted February 10, 2008 no.. some little fella with a tight tee shirt. loved to run around lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jo Momma 0 Report post Posted February 10, 2008 I does no good to complain about the refs. If the coaches think a ref does an overall decent job he will continue being used. I heard there is one ref that was at state last year that isn't invited this year. IF that's true then there is some accountability that makes refs try to do a good job. I think they have a tough job since they have to be alert all day with only short breaks. If wrestlers watch enough matches they will know what refs make certain calls and adjust their style to compensate.It is, but since this thread like almost every other thread on this website strays off course, I just thought I would ask. You are free to go back to discussing Matt Neal. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jo Momma 0 Report post Posted February 10, 2008 Okay thanks. I was just curious. Now back on topic for Mr. Clean. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MrClean 0 Report post Posted February 10, 2008 Okay thanks. I was just curious. Now back on topic for Mr. Clean.It's okay Jo Momma, my comment was intended to be light hearted! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jo Momma 0 Report post Posted February 10, 2008 No offense taken. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
130alum 0 Report post Posted February 11, 2008 All the criticism about refs doing a bad job is bogus. I used to blast referrees while I was wrestling, but then I started reffing this year. If you think the reffing is bad, then do something about it. I'm sick of all these people who criticize refs but when they are done with wrestling, they don't go back and ref, they just keep criticizing. If you want reffing to improve in the state, become a ref and be a good one. In time, your reputation will spread as being a good ref, and you will be assigned more often and to the more prestigious tournaments. I received good reviews this year from almost all coaches, and it paid off for me. I came in late, so I didn't get a lot scheduled, but a little bit into it, coaches started talking me up and I was called to do a lot more tournaments. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
true pioneer 0 Report post Posted February 11, 2008 i'm only 16 still in high school.. so i can't :wink: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shakeandbake 0 Report post Posted February 11, 2008 I was going to ref, but they told me that my I.Q. was too high. Ouch! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pridewrestler 0 Report post Posted February 11, 2008 Burn Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shakeandbake 0 Report post Posted February 11, 2008 Tell your step-brother about that one Pride! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pridewrestler 0 Report post Posted February 11, 2008 Josh or Jason Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shakeandbake 0 Report post Posted February 11, 2008 Either! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pridewrestler 0 Report post Posted February 11, 2008 They should be at state, if i remember ill say something because that was quite hilarious Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shakeandbake 0 Report post Posted February 11, 2008 Thank you. If you don't remember, I'll remind you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pridewrestler 0 Report post Posted February 11, 2008 I mean I forget stuff all the time, by the way congrats on your upperweights... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shakeandbake 0 Report post Posted February 11, 2008 Thanks, it felt really good to have the big boys on top again. Hopefully all of them can place Sat. I wish Greg could have at least gotten fourth, but three champs, I'll take that! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pridewrestler 0 Report post Posted February 11, 2008 Yea, Old Gregs flying headlock didnt come through. But dominating 171-215 is great...Levi has a shot, i havnt seen the 171 bracket Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
