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I told you I thought it would work out pretty well.  Good stuff.

Interesting that Larue and John Hardin were both tied going into the last match with Trinityrespectively.

Yes, Trinity won both duals: 

Trinity 36 - Larue 30

Trinity 39 -John 33

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you figure once Frost comes back and everyone from John goes to where they are going they will more than likely beat trinity. that will be an upset.

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you figure once Frost comes back and everyone from John goes to where they are going they will more than likely beat trinity. that will be an upset.

It would differently be close.

John seems to move around alot in the mid weights 125-145.

All the others seem to be set.

1. Union seems untouchable at this point in a Dual :wink:.

2. Ryle, 3. Trinity and 4. Wayne are close.  I think Wayne should be higher, but they have Campbell Co next week and everyone should have the full squad. 

Yes, Trinity has the football players back and pins = bunus points, Union vs Trinity could be close :|.

Campbell Co, Larue, John, maybe Seneca: given the right matches could surprize 2-4.

The Key is pins and keeping the score low and close less than 8 pts.; Coach Canter seems to know how to do just that. :evil:

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Ok here are my updates based on the new rankings just released.  Again these are simulated matches only and only the top two teams in each region make it to the top 16.  Only one new team makes the top 16 this week.  Southern knocked out Meade County.  Now to the results. (Remember you must have 3 ranked wrestlers to be listed)

Region 1

1.  Union County  7-0-0

2.  Christian County  6-1-0

3.  Ohio County  4-3-0  (Tiebreaker)

4.  Caldwell County  4-3-0

5.  Henderson County  3-3-1

6.  Calloway County  2-4-1

7.  Paducah Tilghman  1-6-0

8.  Apollo  0-7-0

Region 2

1.  John Hardin  7-0-0

2.  Larue County  6-1-0

3.  Central Hardin  5-2-0

4.  North Hardin  4-3-0

5.  Fort Knox  3-4-0

6.  Nelson County  2-5-0

7.  Anderson County  1-6-0

8.  Danville  0-7-0

Region 3

1.  PRP  6-0-0

2.  Southern  5-1-0

3.  Meade County  4-2-0

4.  Doss  3-3-0

5.  Bullitt Central  2-4-0

T6.  DeSales  0-5-1

T6.  Iroquois  0-5-1

Region 4

1.  Trinity  4-0-0

2.  Seneca  3-1-0

3.  St Xavier  2-2-0

4.  Moore  1-3-0

5.  Central  0-4-0

Region 5

1.  Fern Creek  4-0-1

2.  North Oldham 4-1-0

3.  South Oldham  3-1-1

4.  Eastern  2-3-0

5.  Oldham County  1-4-0

6.  Kentucky Country Day  0-5-0

Region 6

1.  Ryle  6-0-0

2.  Campbell County  5-1-0

3.  Simon Kenton  4-2-0

4.  Scott  3-3-0

5.  Conner  2-4-0

6.  Dixie Heights  1-5-0

7.  Newport  0-6-0

Region 7

1.  Woodford County  8-0-0

2.  Paul Dunbar  7-1-0

3.  Harrison County  6-2-0

T4.  Lafayette  4-3-1

T4.  Tates Creek  4-3-1

6.  Franklin County  3-5-1

7.  Henry Clay  2-6-0

8.  Montgomery County  1-7-0

9.  Bourbon County  0-8-0

Region 8

1.  Wayne County  6-0-0

2.  Johnson Central  5-1-0

3.  Sheldon Clark  4-2-0

4.  LCC  3-3-0

T5.  Whitley County  1-4-1

T5.  McCreary County  1-4-1

7.  Ashland Blazer  0-6-0

Overall

1.  Union County  15-0-0  (1)

2.  Ryle  13-1-1  (2)

3.  Trinity  13-2-0  (3)

4.  Wayne  12-2-1  (4)

T5.  Campbell  10-4-1  (5)

T5.  John Hardin  10-4-1  (6)

7.  Woodford County  9-6-0  (7)

8.  Christian County  6-8-1 (tie breaker)  (8)

9.  Johnson Central  6-8-1  (11)

10.  Larue County  6-9-0  (9)

11.  Seneca  5-9-1  (10)

12.  Fern Creek  4-10-1  (12)

13.  North Oldham  3-12-0  (13)

14.  PRP  3-12-0  (14)

15.  Paul Dunbar  1-14-0  (15)

16.  Southern  0-15-0  (16)

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:?

If the top two teams per region go to state duals.

Do they seed all the number one teams per region or the top eight teams:?

Overall Ryle is ranked second, how will this work.  Cam Co is number one out of the region:?

Two number #1's are out of the top eight, does anyone know how this will work :?

If so what would the pools possible look like.

Overall

1.  Union County  15-0-0  (1)                    Region 1 #1

2.  Ryle  13-1-1  (2)                                Region 6 #2

3.  Trinity  13-2-0  (3)                              Region 4 #1

4.  Wayne  12-2-1  (4)                              Region 8 #1

T5.  Campbell  10-4-1  (5)                          Region 6 #1

T5.  John Hardin  10-4-1  (6)                      Region 2 #1

7.  Woodford County  9-6-0  (7)                  Region 7 #1

8.  Christian County  6-8-1 (tie breaker)  (8) Region 1 #2

9.  Johnson Central  6-8-1  (11)                  Region 8 #2

10.  Larue County  6-9-0  (9)                    Region 2 #2

11.  Seneca  5-9-1  (10)                          Region 4 #2

12.  Fern Creek  4-10-1  (12)                    Region 5 #1

13.  North Oldham  3-12-0  (13)                Region 5 #2

14.  PRP  3-12-0  (14)                              Region 3 #1

15.  Paul Dunbar  1-14-0  (15)                  Region 7 #2

16.  Southern  0-15-0  (16)                      Region 3 #2

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Unofficial Yes, But pretty darn close to the truth.

It's my understanding that they split the teams from the region one on each side of the bracket :?

If they seed the number #1 ones only then this would be my guess.

Top Bracket

Pool 1

1.  Union County  15-0-0  (1)            Region 1 #1

Draw in

Draw in

14.  PRP  3-12-0  (14)                      Region 3 #1

Pool 2

T5.  Campbell  10-4-1  (5)                Region 6 #1

Draw in

Draw in

T5.  John Hardin  10-4-1  (6)              Region 2 #1

Draw in Johnson Central  6-8-1  (11)    Region 8 #2

Draw in Seneca  5-9-1  (10)              Region 4 #2

Draw in North Oldham  3-12-0  (13)      Region 5 #2

Draw in Paul Dunbar  1-14-0  (15)        Region 7 #2

Bottom Bracket

Pool 3

3.  Trinity  13-2-0  (3)                      Region 4 #1

Draw in

Draw in

12.  Fern Creek  4-10-1  (12)              Region 5 #1

Pool 4

4.  Wayne  12-2-1  (4)                      Region 8 #1

Draw in

Draw in

7.  Woodford County  9-6-0  (7)          Region 7 #1

Draw in Ryle  13-1-1  (2)                    Region 6 #2

Draw in Christian County  6-8-1            Region 1 #2

Draw in Larue County  6-9-0  (9)          Region 2 #2

Draw in Southern  0-15-0  (16)            Region 3 #2

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Unofficial Yes, But pretty darn close to the truth.

It's my understanding that they split the teams from the region one on each side of the bracket :?

If they seed the number #1 ones only then this would be my guess.

Top Bracket

Pool 1

1.  Union County  15-0-0  (1)            Region 1 #1

Draw in

Draw in

14.  PRP  3-12-0  (14)                      Region 3 #1

Pool 2

T5.  Campbell  10-4-1  (5)                 Region 6 #1

Draw in

Draw in

T5.  John Hardin  10-4-1  (6)              Region 2 #1

Draw in Johnson Central  6-8-1  (11)    Region 8 #2

Draw in Seneca  5-9-1  (10)               Region 4 #2

Draw in North Oldham  3-12-0  (13)      Region 5 #2

Draw in Paul Dunbar  1-14-0  (15)        Region 7 #2

Bottom Bracket

Pool 3

3.  Trinity  13-2-0  (3)                       Region 4 #1

Draw in

Draw in

12.  Fern Creek  4-10-1  (12)              Region 5 #1

Pool 4

4.  Wayne  12-2-1  (4)                       Region 8 #1

Draw in

Draw in

7.  Woodford County  9-6-0  (7)           Region 7 #1

Draw in Ryle  13-1-1  (2)                     Region 6 #2

Draw in Christian County  6-8-1            Region 1 #2

Draw in Larue County  6-9-0  (9)          Region 2 #2

Draw in Southern  0-15-0  (16)             Region 3 #2

"southern 0-15-0" were not that we are like 13 or 14-2 we have only lost to john hardin and oldham county so were not 0-15

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In simulated matches southern goes 0-15 against the other 15 teams listed in the rankings.  What it is saying is that you get second in your region but last in state duals.

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Oh, here it goes again....everyone speak a  l i t t l e  s l o w e r.

"southern 0-15-0" were not that we are like 13 or 14-2 we have only lost to john hardin and oldham county so were not 0-15

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Sorry it took me a little longer to run my simulations as its been a rough week for me.  Anyway here are the results based on the January 2nd rankings.  Only two big changes.  Both South Oldham and Eastern moved past Fern Creek and North Oldham.

Region 1

Union County 7-0-0

Christian County 6-1-0

Ohio County 4-2-1

Caldwell County 4-3-0

Henderson County 3-3-1

Calloway County 2-5-0

Fort Campbell 1-6-0

Paducah Tilghman 0-7-0

Region 2

John Hardin 7-0-0

Larue County 6-1-0

North Hardin 5-2-0

Central Hardin 4-3-0

Fort Knox 3-4-0

Anderson County 2-5-0

Nelson County 1-6-0

Danville 0-7-0

Region 3

Southern 6-0-0

PRP 5-1-0

Doss 4-2-0

Meade County 3-3-0

Bullitt Central 2-4-0

Iroquois 1-5-0

DeSales 0-6-0

Region 4

Trinity 4-0-0

Seneca 3-1-0

St. Xavier 2-2-0

Moore 1-3-0

Central 0-4-0

Region 5

South Oldham 4-0-0

Eastern 3-1-0

Fern Creek 2-2-0

North Oldham 1-3-0

Oldham County 0-4-0

Region 6

Ryle 6-0-0

Campbell 5-1-0

Scott 4-2-0

Simon Kenton 3-3-0

Dixie Heights 2-4-0

Conner 1-5-0

Newport 0-6-0

Region 7

Woodford County 7-0-0

Paul Dunbar 6-1-0

Tates Creek 5-2-0

Harrison County 4-3-0

Lafayette 3-4-0

Franklin County 2-5-0

Henry Clay 1-6-0

Montgomery County 0-7-0

Region 8

Wayne 6-0-0

Johnson Central 5-1-0

Sheldon Clark 4-2-0

LCC 3-3-0

McCreary Central 2-4-0

Whitley 1-5-0

Ashland Blazer 0-6-0

Overall

1. Union County 15-0-0  (1)

2. Ryle 14-1-0  (2) 

3. Trinity 13-2-0  (3)

4. Wayne County 12-3-0  (4)

5. John Hardin 11-4-0  (T5)

6. Campbell County 10-5-0  (T5)

7. South Oldham 9-6-0  (NR)

8. Larue County 8-7-0  (10)

9. Seneca 7-8-0  (11)

10. Woodford 5-10-0 (tiebreaker)  (7)

11 Christian 5-10-0  (8)

12. Johnson Central 4-11-0  (9)

13. Paul Dunbar 3-12-0  (15)

14. Eastern 2-13-0  (NR)

15. PRP 1-14-0 (tiebreaker)  (14)

16. Southern 1-14-0  (16) (Simulated matches against the other 15 teams)

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I am looking forward to the results of region 5 duals.  With the big changes this week in the predictions based on simulated matches it will show if the system is worth anything.

It predicts that Eastern wins pool A and Fern Creek gets second while South Oldham and North Oldham advance from pool B.

On Day two Eastern beats North Oldham and South Oldham beats Fern Creek.  South Oldham then Beast Eastern in the finals.

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I am looking forward to the results of region 5 duals.  With the big changes this week in the predictions based on simulated matches it will show if the system is worth anything.

It predicts that Eastern wins pool A and Fern Creek gets second while South Oldham and North Oldham advance from pool B.

On Day two Eastern beats North Oldham and South Oldham beats Fern Creek.  South Oldham then Beast Eastern in the finals.

Keep in mind the "system" can't account for any strange things happening: kid not making weight or not wrestling due to injury/grades or coaches shifting weights, not to mention the fluke upset.

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First Eastern will have to beat OC or Fern Creek to make it to the second round and i don't see them beating OC maybe Fern Creek if they have a lot of people out, but we will just have to wait and see on tues. and wed. :-)

Good call.  Eastern didn't even wrestle.

South 1st, North 2nd. 

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Yeah, I really didn't even consider not showing up (Eastern) as a possible strange occurance.  I was thinking more like lineup shifts, illness, injuries, etc.  Oh well.

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Perhaps one of our friends from Eastern can post an answer to their whereabouts tonight.  Seems extremely odd.

I bet they were at the other site hoping to see some good matches from region 3 and region 4.

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Unofficial,

Prediction for the state dual.

MY best guess of what the draw may look like :-D.

Top Bracket

Pool 1

1.  Union County  15-0-0  (1)            Region 1 #1

Draw in

Draw in

14.  PRP  3-12-0  (14)                      Region 3 #1

Pool 2

T5.  Campbell  10-4-1  (5)                Region 6 #1

Draw in

Draw in

T5.  John Hardin  10-4-1  (6)              Region 2 #1

Draw in Johnson Central  6-8-1  (11)    Region 8 #2

Draw in Seneca  5-9-1  (10)              Region 4 #2

Draw in North Oldham  3-12-0  (13)      Region 5 #2

Draw in Paul Dunbar  1-14-0  (15)        Region 7 #2

Bottom Bracket

Pool 3

3.  Trinity  13-2-0  (3)                      Region 4 #1

Draw in

Draw in

8.  South Oldham  4-10-1  (8)              Region 5 #1

Pool 4

4.  Wayne  12-2-1  (4)                      Region 8 #1

Draw in

Draw in

7.  Woodford County  9-6-0  (7)          Region 7 #1

Draw in Ryle  13-1-1  (2)                    Region 6 #2

Draw in Christian County  6-8-1            Region 1 #2

Draw in Larue County  6-9-0  (9)          Region 2 #2

Draw in Southern  0-15-0  (16)            Region 3 #2

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Region 8

Wayne 6-0-0

Johnson Central 5-1-0

Sheldon Clark 4-2-0

LCC 3-3-0

McCreary Central 2-4-0

Whitley 1-5-0

Ashland Blazer 0-6-0

there is also prestonsburg and lawrence county

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I believe the following table is correct:

Region 1st             2nd

1 Union             Christian Co.

2 John Hardin Larue

3 Mead Co.             Southern

4 Trinity             Seneca

5 South Oldham North Oldham

6 Campbell Co. Ryle

7 Woodford Co. Paul Dunbar

8 Wayne Co. Johnson Central

Top 4 Seed.

1. Union

2. Trinity

3. Wayne Co.

4. Campbell Co.

Then the other 1st placers will be drawn in with the 2nd placers drawn in on the opposite side of the bracket.  Anything could happen depending on the draw.  Ryle

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