Old School 0 Report post Posted December 23, 2007 I told you I thought it would work out pretty well. Good stuff.Interesting that Larue and John Hardin were both tied going into the last match with Trinityrespectively.Yes, Trinity won both duals: Trinity 36 - Larue 30 Trinity 39 -John 33 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frogman 0 Report post Posted December 23, 2007 you figure once Frost comes back and everyone from John goes to where they are going they will more than likely beat trinity. that will be an upset. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Old School 0 Report post Posted December 23, 2007 you figure once Frost comes back and everyone from John goes to where they are going they will more than likely beat trinity. that will be an upset.It would differently be close.John seems to move around alot in the mid weights 125-145.All the others seem to be set.1. Union seems untouchable at this point in a Dual :wink:.2. Ryle, 3. Trinity and 4. Wayne are close. I think Wayne should be higher, but they have Campbell Co next week and everyone should have the full squad. Yes, Trinity has the football players back and pins = bunus points, Union vs Trinity could be close :|.Campbell Co, Larue, John, maybe Seneca: given the right matches could surprize 2-4.The Key is pins and keeping the score low and close less than 8 pts.; Coach Canter seems to know how to do just that. :evil: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Two_Cents 0 Report post Posted December 27, 2007 Ok here are my updates based on the new rankings just released. Again these are simulated matches only and only the top two teams in each region make it to the top 16. Only one new team makes the top 16 this week. Southern knocked out Meade County. Now to the results. (Remember you must have 3 ranked wrestlers to be listed)Region 11. Union County 7-0-02. Christian County 6-1-03. Ohio County 4-3-0 (Tiebreaker)4. Caldwell County 4-3-05. Henderson County 3-3-16. Calloway County 2-4-17. Paducah Tilghman 1-6-08. Apollo 0-7-0Region 21. John Hardin 7-0-02. Larue County 6-1-03. Central Hardin 5-2-04. North Hardin 4-3-05. Fort Knox 3-4-06. Nelson County 2-5-07. Anderson County 1-6-08. Danville 0-7-0Region 31. PRP 6-0-02. Southern 5-1-03. Meade County 4-2-04. Doss 3-3-05. Bullitt Central 2-4-0T6. DeSales 0-5-1T6. Iroquois 0-5-1Region 41. Trinity 4-0-02. Seneca 3-1-03. St Xavier 2-2-04. Moore 1-3-05. Central 0-4-0Region 51. Fern Creek 4-0-12. North Oldham 4-1-03. South Oldham 3-1-14. Eastern 2-3-05. Oldham County 1-4-06. Kentucky Country Day 0-5-0Region 61. Ryle 6-0-02. Campbell County 5-1-03. Simon Kenton 4-2-04. Scott 3-3-05. Conner 2-4-06. Dixie Heights 1-5-07. Newport 0-6-0Region 71. Woodford County 8-0-02. Paul Dunbar 7-1-03. Harrison County 6-2-0T4. Lafayette 4-3-1T4. Tates Creek 4-3-16. Franklin County 3-5-17. Henry Clay 2-6-08. Montgomery County 1-7-09. Bourbon County 0-8-0Region 81. Wayne County 6-0-02. Johnson Central 5-1-03. Sheldon Clark 4-2-04. LCC 3-3-0T5. Whitley County 1-4-1T5. McCreary County 1-4-17. Ashland Blazer 0-6-0Overall1. Union County 15-0-0 (1)2. Ryle 13-1-1 (2)3. Trinity 13-2-0 (3)4. Wayne 12-2-1 (4)T5. Campbell 10-4-1 (5)T5. John Hardin 10-4-1 (6)7. Woodford County 9-6-0 (7)8. Christian County 6-8-1 (tie breaker) (8)9. Johnson Central 6-8-1 (11)10. Larue County 6-9-0 (9)11. Seneca 5-9-1 (10)12. Fern Creek 4-10-1 (12)13. North Oldham 3-12-0 (13)14. PRP 3-12-0 (14)15. Paul Dunbar 1-14-0 (15)16. Southern 0-15-0 (16) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Old School 0 Report post Posted December 27, 2007 :?If the top two teams per region go to state duals.Do they seed all the number one teams per region or the top eight teams:?Overall Ryle is ranked second, how will this work. Cam Co is number one out of the region:?Two number #1's are out of the top eight, does anyone know how this will work :?If so what would the pools possible look like.Overall1. Union County 15-0-0 (1) Region 1 #12. Ryle 13-1-1 (2) Region 6 #23. Trinity 13-2-0 (3) Region 4 #14. Wayne 12-2-1 (4) Region 8 #1T5. Campbell 10-4-1 (5) Region 6 #1T5. John Hardin 10-4-1 (6) Region 2 #17. Woodford County 9-6-0 (7) Region 7 #18. Christian County 6-8-1 (tie breaker) (8) Region 1 #29. Johnson Central 6-8-1 (11) Region 8 #210. Larue County 6-9-0 (9) Region 2 #211. Seneca 5-9-1 (10) Region 4 #212. Fern Creek 4-10-1 (12) Region 5 #113. North Oldham 3-12-0 (13) Region 5 #214. PRP 3-12-0 (14) Region 3 #115. Paul Dunbar 1-14-0 (15) Region 7 #216. Southern 0-15-0 (16) Region 3 #2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Two_Cents 0 Report post Posted December 27, 2007 Personally I have no idea as I have never been to a state dual meet before in this state. Plus these rankings are unofficial. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Old School 0 Report post Posted December 27, 2007 Unofficial Yes, But pretty darn close to the truth.It's my understanding that they split the teams from the region one on each side of the bracket :?If they seed the number #1 ones only then this would be my guess.Top BracketPool 11. Union County 15-0-0 (1) Region 1 #1Draw inDraw in14. PRP 3-12-0 (14) Region 3 #1Pool 2T5. Campbell 10-4-1 (5) Region 6 #1Draw inDraw inT5. John Hardin 10-4-1 (6) Region 2 #1Draw in Johnson Central 6-8-1 (11) Region 8 #2Draw in Seneca 5-9-1 (10) Region 4 #2Draw in North Oldham 3-12-0 (13) Region 5 #2Draw in Paul Dunbar 1-14-0 (15) Region 7 #2Bottom BracketPool 33. Trinity 13-2-0 (3) Region 4 #1Draw inDraw in12. Fern Creek 4-10-1 (12) Region 5 #1Pool 44. Wayne 12-2-1 (4) Region 8 #1Draw inDraw in7. Woodford County 9-6-0 (7) Region 7 #1Draw in Ryle 13-1-1 (2) Region 6 #2Draw in Christian County 6-8-1 Region 1 #2Draw in Larue County 6-9-0 (9) Region 2 #2Draw in Southern 0-15-0 (16) Region 3 #2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest 103GBM? Report post Posted December 27, 2007 Unofficial Yes, But pretty darn close to the truth.It's my understanding that they split the teams from the region one on each side of the bracket :?If they seed the number #1 ones only then this would be my guess.Top BracketPool 11. Union County 15-0-0 (1) Region 1 #1Draw inDraw in14. PRP 3-12-0 (14) Region 3 #1Pool 2T5. Campbell 10-4-1 (5) Region 6 #1Draw inDraw inT5. John Hardin 10-4-1 (6) Region 2 #1Draw in Johnson Central 6-8-1 (11) Region 8 #2Draw in Seneca 5-9-1 (10) Region 4 #2Draw in North Oldham 3-12-0 (13) Region 5 #2Draw in Paul Dunbar 1-14-0 (15) Region 7 #2Bottom BracketPool 33. Trinity 13-2-0 (3) Region 4 #1Draw inDraw in12. Fern Creek 4-10-1 (12) Region 5 #1Pool 44. Wayne 12-2-1 (4) Region 8 #1Draw inDraw in7. Woodford County 9-6-0 (7) Region 7 #1Draw in Ryle 13-1-1 (2) Region 6 #2Draw in Christian County 6-8-1 Region 1 #2Draw in Larue County 6-9-0 (9) Region 2 #2Draw in Southern 0-15-0 (16) Region 3 #2"southern 0-15-0" were not that we are like 13 or 14-2 we have only lost to john hardin and oldham county so were not 0-15 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Two_Cents 0 Report post Posted December 27, 2007 In simulated matches southern goes 0-15 against the other 15 teams listed in the rankings. What it is saying is that you get second in your region but last in state duals. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest wrestler92 Report post Posted December 27, 2007 Oh, here it goes again....everyone speak a l i t t l e s l o w e r. "southern 0-15-0" were not that we are like 13 or 14-2 we have only lost to john hardin and oldham county so were not 0-15 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Two_Cents 0 Report post Posted January 5, 2008 Sorry it took me a little longer to run my simulations as its been a rough week for me. Anyway here are the results based on the January 2nd rankings. Only two big changes. Both South Oldham and Eastern moved past Fern Creek and North Oldham.Region 1Union County 7-0-0Christian County 6-1-0Ohio County 4-2-1Caldwell County 4-3-0Henderson County 3-3-1Calloway County 2-5-0Fort Campbell 1-6-0Paducah Tilghman 0-7-0Region 2John Hardin 7-0-0Larue County 6-1-0North Hardin 5-2-0Central Hardin 4-3-0Fort Knox 3-4-0Anderson County 2-5-0Nelson County 1-6-0Danville 0-7-0Region 3Southern 6-0-0PRP 5-1-0Doss 4-2-0Meade County 3-3-0Bullitt Central 2-4-0Iroquois 1-5-0DeSales 0-6-0Region 4Trinity 4-0-0Seneca 3-1-0St. Xavier 2-2-0Moore 1-3-0Central 0-4-0Region 5South Oldham 4-0-0Eastern 3-1-0Fern Creek 2-2-0North Oldham 1-3-0Oldham County 0-4-0Region 6Ryle 6-0-0Campbell 5-1-0Scott 4-2-0Simon Kenton 3-3-0Dixie Heights 2-4-0Conner 1-5-0Newport 0-6-0Region 7Woodford County 7-0-0Paul Dunbar 6-1-0Tates Creek 5-2-0Harrison County 4-3-0Lafayette 3-4-0Franklin County 2-5-0Henry Clay 1-6-0Montgomery County 0-7-0Region 8 Wayne 6-0-0Johnson Central 5-1-0Sheldon Clark 4-2-0LCC 3-3-0McCreary Central 2-4-0Whitley 1-5-0Ashland Blazer 0-6-0Overall1. Union County 15-0-0 (1)2. Ryle 14-1-0 (2) 3. Trinity 13-2-0 (3)4. Wayne County 12-3-0 (4)5. John Hardin 11-4-0 (T5)6. Campbell County 10-5-0 (T5)7. South Oldham 9-6-0 (NR)8. Larue County 8-7-0 (10)9. Seneca 7-8-0 (11)10. Woodford 5-10-0 (tiebreaker) (7)11 Christian 5-10-0 (8)12. Johnson Central 4-11-0 (9)13. Paul Dunbar 3-12-0 (15)14. Eastern 2-13-0 (NR)15. PRP 1-14-0 (tiebreaker) (14)16. Southern 1-14-0 (16) (Simulated matches against the other 15 teams) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Two_Cents 0 Report post Posted January 5, 2008 I am looking forward to the results of region 5 duals. With the big changes this week in the predictions based on simulated matches it will show if the system is worth anything.It predicts that Eastern wins pool A and Fern Creek gets second while South Oldham and North Oldham advance from pool B.On Day two Eastern beats North Oldham and South Oldham beats Fern Creek. South Oldham then Beast Eastern in the finals. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ranger123 43 Report post Posted January 5, 2008 I am looking forward to the results of region 5 duals. With the big changes this week in the predictions based on simulated matches it will show if the system is worth anything.It predicts that Eastern wins pool A and Fern Creek gets second while South Oldham and North Oldham advance from pool B.On Day two Eastern beats North Oldham and South Oldham beats Fern Creek. South Oldham then Beast Eastern in the finals.Keep in mind the "system" can't account for any strange things happening: kid not making weight or not wrestling due to injury/grades or coaches shifting weights, not to mention the fluke upset. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pridewrestler 0 Report post Posted January 6, 2008 whoa buddy :mrgreen: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wrestlingforyears 0 Report post Posted January 6, 2008 First Eastern will have to beat OC or Fern Creek to make it to the second round and i don't see them beating OC maybe Fern Creek if they have a lot of people out, but we will just have to wait and see on tues. and wed. :-) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OCMVP 0 Report post Posted January 9, 2008 First Eastern will have to beat OC or Fern Creek to make it to the second round and i don't see them beating OC maybe Fern Creek if they have a lot of people out, but we will just have to wait and see on tues. and wed. :-)Good call. Eastern didn't even wrestle.South 1st, North 2nd. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ranger123 43 Report post Posted January 9, 2008 Yeah, I really didn't even consider not showing up (Eastern) as a possible strange occurance. I was thinking more like lineup shifts, illness, injuries, etc. Oh well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ARealWrestlingFanatic 1 Report post Posted January 9, 2008 Perhaps one of our friends from Eastern can post an answer to their whereabouts tonight. Seems extremely odd. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ranger123 43 Report post Posted January 9, 2008 Perhaps one of our friends from Eastern can post an answer to their whereabouts tonight. Seems extremely odd.I bet they were at the other site hoping to see some good matches from region 3 and region 4. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Charger Coach 14 Report post Posted January 9, 2008 Nice! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Old School 0 Report post Posted January 9, 2008 Unofficial, Prediction for the state dual.MY best guess of what the draw may look like :-D. Top BracketPool 11. Union County 15-0-0 (1) Region 1 #1Draw inDraw in14. PRP 3-12-0 (14) Region 3 #1Pool 2T5. Campbell 10-4-1 (5) Region 6 #1Draw inDraw inT5. John Hardin 10-4-1 (6) Region 2 #1Draw in Johnson Central 6-8-1 (11) Region 8 #2Draw in Seneca 5-9-1 (10) Region 4 #2Draw in North Oldham 3-12-0 (13) Region 5 #2Draw in Paul Dunbar 1-14-0 (15) Region 7 #2Bottom BracketPool 33. Trinity 13-2-0 (3) Region 4 #1Draw inDraw in8. South Oldham 4-10-1 (8) Region 5 #1Pool 44. Wayne 12-2-1 (4) Region 8 #1Draw inDraw in7. Woodford County 9-6-0 (7) Region 7 #1Draw in Ryle 13-1-1 (2) Region 6 #2Draw in Christian County 6-8-1 Region 1 #2Draw in Larue County 6-9-0 (9) Region 2 #2Draw in Southern 0-15-0 (16) Region 3 #2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wrestler07 1 Report post Posted January 9, 2008 Region 8 Wayne 6-0-0Johnson Central 5-1-0Sheldon Clark 4-2-0LCC 3-3-0McCreary Central 2-4-0Whitley 1-5-0Ashland Blazer 0-6-0there is also prestonsburg and lawrence county Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Old School 0 Report post Posted January 9, 2008 ONLY the top two team attend the state duals. :wink: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dinubus 2 Report post Posted January 13, 2008 I believe the following table is correct:Region 1st 2nd1 Union Christian Co.2 John Hardin Larue3 Mead Co. Southern4 Trinity Seneca5 South Oldham North Oldham6 Campbell Co. Ryle7 Woodford Co. Paul Dunbar8 Wayne Co. Johnson CentralTop 4 Seed.1. Union2. Trinity3. Wayne Co.4. Campbell Co.Then the other 1st placers will be drawn in with the 2nd placers drawn in on the opposite side of the bracket. Anything could happen depending on the draw. Ryle Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MeadeWrestler07 0 Report post Posted January 13, 2008 someone should update this now that Meade is in the duels :-D Share this post Link to post Share on other sites