189lateral 0 Report post Posted February 20, 2007 who do you guys think some of the better 189`s were in the last five years? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tc125 0 Report post Posted February 20, 2007 the best i would have to def say would be richard starks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eckman2 0 Report post Posted February 20, 2007 Mark Jones NHTerry Turner CHRich Starks WCKevin Ortho ?? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cmlswrstlng 0 Report post Posted February 21, 2007 Mark Jones NHTerry Turner CHRich Starks WCKevin Ortho ??Its Kevin Orth from CC Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eckman2 0 Report post Posted February 21, 2007 who will be 189 next season? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zeus 117 Report post Posted February 22, 2007 No Will Starks? He did win it twice, beating Mark Jones both times. You have to at least put him ahead of Jones and Orth, making him second only to his brother. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thelowseed 0 Report post Posted February 22, 2007 next seasons top 3 would be mark jonesryan kellyryan houchens Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eckman2 0 Report post Posted February 22, 2007 No Will Starks? He did win it twice, beating Mark Jones both times. You have to at least put him ahead of Jones and Orth, making him second only to his brother.my bad, thought it was the same guy, were they brothers? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eckman2 0 Report post Posted February 22, 2007 Sorry, didn't catch the bottom 1/2 of that sentence, guess they are brothers, WOW Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dutch1873 0 Report post Posted February 23, 2007 my bad, thought it was the same guy, were they brothers?Yes, they are brothers. Richard is the older of the two and now wrestles for the US Military Academy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tc125 0 Report post Posted February 24, 2007 richard starks walked through state his senior year. nobody touched him, he was an animal. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
go4thekill 0 Report post Posted March 2, 2007 next seasons top 3 would be mark jonesryan kellyryan houchenswas that supposed to be in order because i jones was losing to Kelly before Kelly dislocated his elbow. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CCFullerHWT 1 Report post Posted March 4, 2007 No Will Starks? He did win it twice, beating Mark Jones both times. You have to at least put him ahead of Jones and Orth, making him second only to his brother.i see will at third in the past five years orth would have beat him but he did get lit up in the finals against richard Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Who-Want-It! 0 Report post Posted March 8, 2007 My Top Picks would be like this Richard Starks -Untouchable his junior and senior yearsWill Starks- Undefeated his senior although The Jones match in the finals was pretty closeKevin Orth- He was pretty tough I actually thought richard was gonna have a hard time with him in the finals.Joe Cooke- from Dunbar was pretty tough i belive he placed 3rd or 4th his senior year Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dutch1873 0 Report post Posted March 8, 2007 I would take Richard Starks over everyone, just for his sheer determination to win. He really was an animal. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
colonelcoach2007 0 Report post Posted September 24, 2007 The Starks were tough. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
naplesme 58 Report post Posted September 25, 2007 A.J. Green 2004 189 state Champ in 2004. Pinned Starks everytime they wrestled. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
exhawk 0 Report post Posted September 25, 2007 mitchel rogers,wow. He was a scapper, and you never knew what was gonna happen. i don't know how many times i saw him being majored and then launch somebody and stick um. he was very fun to watch. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
overtimeking 0 Report post Posted November 13, 2007 yeah the 2004 finals had beast on the met Aj Green from christian county and Brandon Perry from McCreary i think it was 2-1 but starks would have had a hard time with either one of them Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zeus 117 Report post Posted November 15, 2007 Starks his senior year would walk through anyone at 189 in the last five years, including Green and Perry from McCreary. I also think everyone is forgetting about Kyle Vanzant from Woodford who won it in 2003. He beat the returning state champ from the year before at 215 Derek Sawyer. He was an absolute stud, had basic technique but knew it well and was as strong as an ox. Honestly I would place him second behind Richard Starks and Will Starks at third. After that I would put AJ Green at fourth. Alex Wenninger from Oldham would probably be next just because he never won a title. If Wenninger hadn't had to wrestle Richard Starks all those times he would be at least a one-timer and he would then be ahead of AJ Green. After Wenninger it would be Perry or Mark Jones.Richard StarksKyle VanzantWill StarksAJ GreenAlex WenningerBrandon Perry/Mark Jones Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CCFullerHWT 1 Report post Posted November 17, 2007 Starks his senior year would walk through anyone at 189 in the last five years, including Green and Perry from McCreary. I also think everyone is forgetting about Kyle Vanzant from Woodford who won it in 2003. He beat the returning state champ from the year before at 215 Derek Sawyer. He was an absolute stud, had basic technique but knew it well and was as strong as an ox. Honestly I would place him second behind Richard Starks and Will Starks at third. After that I would put AJ Green at fourth. Alex Wenninger from Oldham would probably be next just because he never won a title. If Wenninger hadn't had to wrestle Richard Starks all those times he would be at least a one-timer and he would then be ahead of AJ Green. After Wenninger it would be Perry or Mark Jones.Richard StarksKyle VanzantWill StarksAJ GreenAlex WenningerBrandon Perry/Mark JonesYou are forgetting a very good 189 that i think would have distroyed will starks... Keving ORth 2005 runner-up to richard...he was an amazing wrestler just ran into starks at state Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
possumdaddy 23 Report post Posted November 17, 2007 I dont think he would have destroyed Will Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CCFullerHWT 1 Report post Posted November 17, 2007 Will Starks was a great wrestler i just don't think he was as good as all the hype he always received... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
possumdaddy 23 Report post Posted November 19, 2007 2 time state champ isnt exactly all hype Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CCFullerHWT 1 Report post Posted November 20, 2007 iunderstand that but too very close state titles he didn't exactly blow Jones away... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites