grappler-of-old 44 Report post Posted February 25, 2022 46 minutes ago, Tbagnky said: That '83 team is the benchmark at Conner. They have a reputation as not just a great team, but one that went out to make sure you knew you were in a dogfight. Win or lose, they made their presence known. That is nothing short of the truth. I know first hand fighting against them all year. Was a dog fight that year in NKY. Simon won the Conference tourney Campbell second Conner 3rd Conner won District Campbell 2nd Simon 3rd. Campbell won region Conner 2nd Simon 3rd. Conner won state 4 points over Campbell 2nd. With all that said they were a great set of guys off the mat. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
385 109 Report post Posted February 26, 2022 Surprised nobody has mentioned John Wolsiefer yet Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ranger123 43 Report post Posted February 27, 2022 9 hours ago, 385 said: Surprised nobody has mentioned John Wolsiefer yet Oh my yeah. Total machine on the mat. I have a Paul Bunyan story about him. Before I got into coaching I spent one year as an official. Mark Hitchings called me to come over and officiate a dual meet for his Fern Creek MS team that was the gold standard at that time. They were wrestling a tough IN team. After a few matches of light kids Coach Hitchings informed me that he had a really tough kid who was going to wrestle a few weights and matches in a row. That kid was Wolsiefer. This bad little dude proceeded to murder like 7 kids in a row each one a little bigger. His HS career didn’t finish the way anyone wanted, but at his peak he was one of the most dominant 152/160 range kids I’ve seen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
385 109 Report post Posted February 27, 2022 6 hours ago, Ranger123 said: Oh my yeah. Total machine on the mat. I have a Paul Bunyan story about him. Before I got into coaching I spent one year as an official. Mark Hitchings called me to come over and officiate a dual meet for his Fern Creek MS team that was the gold standard at that time. They were wrestling a tough IN team. After a few matches of light kids Coach Hitchings informed me that he had a really tough kid who was going to wrestle a few weights and matches in a row. That kid was Wolsiefer. This bad little dude proceeded to murder like 7 kids in a row each one a little bigger. His HS career didn’t finish the way anyone wanted, but at his peak he was one of the most dominant 152/160 range kids I’ve seen. That’s insane. He was absolutely a machine to watch and one of the first people to make me love wrestling as is he is just a bit older than me. So many studs on those old fern creek youth teams Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DamonMBarnes 13 Report post Posted February 27, 2022 IMO, Scott Cooper never gets the credit he deserves in these discussions. Freshman Year - 2000 - 3rd place - 125 Sophomore Year - 2001 - 2nd place - 130 Junior Year - 2002 - 1st place - 140 Senior year - 2003 - 1st place - 140- beat 2x State Champ Luke Metzker in the finals. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MLee 68 Report post Posted February 27, 2022 Time to add Cole Thomas to this discussion. 4x state champion, MOW as Senior. Never lost to a wrestler in KY all 4 years. Every finals opponent either was or went on to win a state championship. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ranger123 43 Report post Posted February 28, 2022 8 hours ago, DamonMBarnes said: IMO, Scott Cooper never gets the credit he deserves in these discussions. Freshman Year - 2000 - 3rd place - 125 Sophomore Year - 2001 - 2nd place - 130 Junior Year - 2002 - 1st place - 140 Senior year - 2003 - 1st place - 140- beat 2x State Champ Luke Metzker in the finals. IMO Cooper v Metzger was quite possibly the best state finals match I have seen Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NO-OX 1 120 Report post Posted February 28, 2022 Totally agree!!! Metzger dominated that tournament. Almost!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DamonMBarnes 13 Report post Posted February 28, 2022 31 minutes ago, Ranger123 said: IMO Cooper v Metzger was quite possibly the best state finals match I have seen Agreed. It's the best I ever saw. Metzger had beaten him earlier in the year to if I remember correctly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bestmistake33 28 Report post Posted February 28, 2022 53 minutes ago, DamonMBarnes said: Agreed. It's the best I ever saw. Metzger had beaten him earlier in the year to if I remember correctly. Anyone happen to have the video Of that match anywhere? Would love to watch Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ranger123 43 Report post Posted February 28, 2022 1 hour ago, bestmistake33 said: Anyone happen to have the video Of that match anywhere? Would love to watch Video definitely exists. From some things I heard this weekend I believe we may be in a position to have access to lots of great historical content in the future. Check out Alex Green on Facebook or YouTube. He just started a state championship review series that sounds absolutely amazing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
halfhalfhalf 121 Report post Posted February 28, 2022 1 hour ago, Ranger123 said: Video definitely exists. From some things I heard this weekend I believe we may be in a position to have access to lots of great historical content in the future. Check out Alex Green on Facebook or YouTube. He just started a state championship review series that sounds absolutely amazing. I totally can I 100% think you all are missing out if you haven't watched Alex Green's video series. I have heard numerous stories about some of the guys he's covered. But seeing them under the lights changes my opinions. The Merritt video under the lights is chilling with the Dungeon atmosphere. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MLee 68 Report post Posted February 28, 2022 On 2/27/2022 at 12:01 PM, MLee said: Time to add Cole Thomas to this discussion. 4x state champion, MOW as Senior. Never lost to a wrestler in KY all 4 years. Every finals opponent either was or went on to win a state championship. Was in a discussion over the weekend. What other 4 X'ers went undefeated in KY? I know ATM never lost. Did anyone from KY beat Brock, Fahy, Courtney, Knable, Clarkston, or Harden? I don't think anyone touched Brock or Knable, but not 100%. Did Courtney ever lose from 9th-12th? No clue on Clarkston or Harden. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WhiteTiger95 0 Report post Posted February 28, 2022 7 minutes ago, MLee said: Was in a discussion over the weekend. What other 4 X'ers went undefeated in KY? I know ATM never lost. Did anyone from KY beat Brock, Fahy, Courtney, Knable, Clarkston, or Harden? I don't think anyone touched Brock or Knable, but not 100%. Did Courtney ever lose from 9th-12th? No clue on Clarkston or Harden. To my understanding Knable never lost a match to a KY wrestler. Fahy apparently never gave up an offensive point to anyone from KY Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MLee 68 Report post Posted February 28, 2022 On 2/23/2022 at 7:02 PM, MLee said: 98- Jeff Everman 103-Joe Carr JR. 112-David Ritchie 119-Kyle Ruschell 125-John Fahy 130-Brock Irvin 135-Dave Barnes 140-Issac Knable 145-Jerod Trice 152-Willie Ennels 160-Harrison Courtney 171-Tendai Charasika 189-Miguel Merritt 215-Austin Meyers HWT-Bruce Stepp **Update** 125- Cole Thomas 135- John Fahy Sorry Barnes... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
raidercoach 51 Report post Posted February 28, 2022 31 minutes ago, MLee said: **Update** 125- Cole Thomas 135- John Fahy Sorry Barnes... Great list. Although, Dave should get some extra credit for rocking that sweet stache his senior year. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gameface 253 Report post Posted March 1, 2022 19 hours ago, MLee said: Was in a discussion over the weekend. What other 4 X'ers went undefeated in KY? I know ATM never lost. Did anyone from KY beat Brock, Fahy, Courtney, Knable, Clarkston, or Harden? I don't think anyone touched Brock or Knable, but not 100%. Did Courtney ever lose from 9th-12th? No clue on Clarkston or Harden. Does anyone have the list and years of the 4x State Champions in order? I had the pleasure of standing there listening to Mike Bandcamper and John Roth, on the state floor, trying to count them and recall the years that it occurred. Mike and John counted 7,including Cole Thomas. I thought I had heard 9 somewhere. What I do know is that Bryce Sheffer was an inspiration for Cole Thomas his whole middle school and high school career. Bryce certainly set the bar at a level that few will ever obtain. What a great legacy he has left this wrestling community with. I am excited for Cole Thomas to be mentioned among names like Carr, Knable, Fahy, Meyers and Clarkston in the record books. It’s been an incredible journey for sure he has blessed our family with. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dblev275 8 Report post Posted March 1, 2022 1 hour ago, gameface said: Does anyone have the list and years of the 4x State Champions in order? I had the pleasure of standing there listening to Mike Bandcamper and John Roth, on the state floor, trying to count them and recall the years that it occurred. Mike and John counted 7,including Cole Thomas. I thought I had heard 9 somewhere. What I do know is that Bryce Sheffer was an inspiration for Cole Thomas his whole middle school and high school career. Bryce certainly set the bar at a level that few will ever obtain. What a great legacy he has left this wrestling community with. I am excited for Cole Thomas to be mentioned among names like Carr, Knable, Fahy, Meyers and Pinkston in the record books. It’s been an incredible journey for sure he has blessed our family with. I’d have to look up the years, but the ones I know of are: James Earl Hardin Robbie Clarkston Joe Carr Isaac Knable Harrison Courtney John Fahy Brock Ervin Austin Myers Bryce Scheffer Cole Thomas 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MLee 68 Report post Posted March 1, 2022 1 hour ago, gameface said: Does anyone have the list and years of the 4x State Champions in order? I had the pleasure of standing there listening to Mike Bandcamper and John Roth, on the state floor, trying to count them and recall the years that it occurred. Mike and John counted 7,including Cole Thomas. I thought I had heard 9 somewhere. What I do know is that Bryce Sheffer was an inspiration for Cole Thomas his whole middle school and high school career. Bryce certainly set the bar at a level that few will ever obtain. What a great legacy he has left this wrestling community with. I am excited for Cole Thomas to be mentioned among names like Carr, Knable, Fahy, Meyers and Pinkston in the record books. It’s been an incredible journey for sure he has blessed our family with. Man, what an oversight on my part. How did I forget about him. I remember watching Sheffer rip through a tough Rumble bracket like hot butter one year. I believe he beat an undefeated kid from Elder in the finals. He was so poised and technical on his feet. Very fun to watch. I believe Cole was my towel boy that day! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CUTiger184 59 Report post Posted March 1, 2022 On 2/27/2022 at 1:05 AM, Ranger123 said: Oh my yeah. Total machine on the mat. I have a Paul Bunyan story about him. Before I got into coaching I spent one year as an official. Mark Hitchings called me to come over and officiate a dual meet for his Fern Creek MS team that was the gold standard at that time. They were wrestling a tough IN team. After a few matches of light kids Coach Hitchings informed me that he had a really tough kid who was going to wrestle a few weights and matches in a row. That kid was Wolsiefer. This bad little dude proceeded to murder like 7 kids in a row each one a little bigger. His HS career didn’t finish the way anyone wanted, but at his peak he was one of the most dominant 152/160 range kids I’ve seen. John Wolsiefer was as tough as they come. I almost talked him into coming out of retirement to join me at Campbellsville. He would have been a multiple time AA for sure. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CUTiger184 59 Report post Posted March 1, 2022 The KYWCA has approved a KYWCA Wrestler HOF. All of this information will be helpful in inducting the first class. We still have a few criteria to line out but I think this will be a cool way to honor the guys of the past for sure. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites