State- what it could look like

[DrBaker 497]

State	1&2	3&4	5&6	7&8
106	Raney	Frederick	Brown	Tucker
	Whorton	Williard	Meyer	Bruner
1st out	Hardin	Porter	Nance	Morris
113	Reeves	Meyer	Orth	Williams
	Teusch	Luttrell	Tumble	Baird
1st out	Jenkins	Plumeri	Bailey	Cook
120	Eckman	Speaker	Moore	Baird
	McKee	Lampe	Benner	Meek
1st out	Nichols	Davis	Sander	Zumwalt
126	Herron	Feree	Thomas	Browning
	Fowler	Faucet	Holden	Dick
1st out	Frazier	Roe	Amentano	Barnes
132	Hoppes	Jarvis	Thornton	Cain
	Peyton	Lehman	Bowers	Nardelli
1st out	Johnson	Walls	Ross	Begley
138	Herron	Beane	Johnson	Davis
	Grant-Hall	Florexille	Smith	Gonzales
1st out	Elliot	Vilums	Andreoni	Hutchison
145	Rider	Krebs	Grandstaff	Cowan
	Fortier	Bemmen	Bowers	Goss
1st out	Kellett	Phan	Craddock	Cruz
152	Carr	Lehman	Parker	Kinley
	Conner	Powell	Messerly	Castle
1st out	Futrell	Ragsdale	Grandstaff	Botts
160	Cox	Phillips	TKC	Giannone
	Slayton	Hendricks	Nance	McCourt
1st out	Shaffer	Blode	Preston	Crowley
170	Russelburg	Kiser	Duke	Kinser
	Walls	Walls	Kopp	Stapleton
1st out	Baker	Hutcheson	Richmond	Saunier
182	Little	Marret	Geilear	Rush
	Walls	Hartlage	Rodriguez	Price
1st out	Riggins	Robertson	Woosley	Whitehead
195	Adams	Simpson	Gibson	Rodriguez
	Ervin	Hatchett	Davis	Coburn
1st out	Lambert	Russell	Arnold	Whitehead
220	Moore	Martin	Orneals	Christian
	Virzi	Karnickey	Brooksbank	Diaz
1st out	Boone	Guilaume	Elliston	Sanders
hwt	Kelly	Williams	Hughes	Smith
	Pottle	Key	Arthur	Bradley
1st out	Che	Martin	Fox	Tshuinza

[DrBaker 497]

Just thrown together from rankings and some regional results. 

[Chris Duke 284]

Just looking at 170 1&2, 3&4 look right.  I think Kopp will get the 2 seed with his head to head.  7&8 is anyone’s  guess.  It could be 2 of 6 kids getting out.  They have been beating up on each other all year. 

[grappler-of-old 44]

14 minutes ago, Chris Duke said:

Just looking at 170 1&2, 3&4 look right.  I think Kopp will get the 2 seed with his head to head.  7&8 is anyone’s  guess.  It could be 2 of 6 kids getting out.  They have been beating up on each other all year. 

Yes.  Bad seeding at region.  Kopp 28-1 getting a 4th seed. ludicrous 

[Chris Duke 284]

With COVID he didn’t have a chance for head to head in the region.  At semi state he has some head to head that should help him.  

[385 109]

Sorry I’m late to the party, but am I understanding correctly that the 2 finalists from this “first round” will then advance to the next round where all 8 are considered state medalists?

 

If so, this is insane. 

[DrBaker 497]

Yes. You can get 2nd in your semistate (which is a hell of an accomplishment in most regions) and go 0-3 at state. Losing 4 matches in a row and celebrate with 8th place.

[GentleBeard 145]

2 hours ago, DrBaker said:

Yes. You can get 2nd in your semistate (which is a hell of an accomplishment in most regions) and go 0-3 at state. Losing 4 matches in a row and celebrate with 8th place.

Or, in some cases, go 1-5 in your last 6 and be a medalist

[385 109]

I’m a lifelong region 3 wrestler/coach/fan and I’m here to tell ya... there’s gonna be some terribly unfair state medalists this year

[ukpridewrestler11 276]

47 minutes ago, 385 said:

I’m a lifelong region 3 wrestler/coach/fan and I’m here to tell ya... there’s gonna be some terribly unfair state medalists this year

And possibly a team win the title that in a normal year wouldn’t sniff the top trophy. All due to this terrible set up by the KHSAA. 

[BigBossMan 21]

$20 per person. 1-2 coaches get in free, the rest of the coaches have to pay, if tickets are available. I guess money’s really not an issue. Lol. I can’t wait to see what next week’s notice will include. 

[rjs4470 103]

11 hours ago, BigBossMan said:

$20 per person. 1-2 coaches get in free, the rest of the coaches have to pay, if tickets are available. I guess money’s really not an issue. Lol. I can’t wait to see what next week’s notice will include. 

Again, this isn't any different from years past. 1 day passes at state have been around $20 forever, and you've always been limited to the number of coaches that get in. And the same rules apply to every sport.

[chad.greenwell 21]

But... it's $20 this weekend, another $20+ next weekend, another $20+ for the finals...

[El Pollo Loco 20]

13 minutes ago, rjs4470 said:

Again, this isn't any different from years past. 1 day passes at state have been around $20 forever, and you've always been limited to the number of coaches that get in. And the same rules apply to every sport.

Any coach that is on the KHSAA Coaching list has always gotten in free. Never had a limited number coaches at state wrestling tournament.

[rjs4470 103]

23 minutes ago, chad.greenwell said:

But... it's $20 this weekend, another $20+ next weekend, another $20+ for the finals...

Has it been confirmed they are charging seperately for the finals?

[rjs4470 103]

11 minutes ago, WrasslinCoach said:

Any coach that is on the KHSAA Coaching list has always gotten in free. Never had a limited number coaches at state wrestling tournament.

With limited attendance though, is it really a surprise there would be a limit? Every coach that's in the building is another Parent/fan that can't attend. And has been mentioned, how many coaches do you really need, especially when there are on going to be a few mats, instead of 8 or 10?

[El Pollo Loco 20]

1 minute ago, rjs4470 said:

With limited attendance though, is it really a surprise there would be a limit? Every coach that's in the building is another Parent/fan that can't attend. And has been mentioned, how many coaches do you really need, especially when there are on going to be a few mats, instead of 8 or 10?

Granted that attendence is limited and no it isn't a surprise they would limit coaches numbers. Nobody expects anything less from the KHSAA. 

Coaches are just as much as a stakeholder in all this as parents/fans. I am not saying one should get in over the other. Will a coach mind paying??? Heck no, as long as he gets to coach his kids. It just stinks they gotta pay for it. 

But that's not the point, state wrestling tournament never had a limit on the number coaches who could get in. As long you did the rules clinic and safety course, you were good.

[coachteater 70]

50 minutes ago, WrasslinCoach said:

Granted that attendence is limited and no it isn't a surprise they would limit coaches numbers. Nobody expects anything less from the KHSAA. 

Coaches are just as much as a stakeholder in all this as parents/fans. I am not saying one should get in over the other. Will a coach mind paying??? Heck no, as long as he gets to coach his kids. It just stinks they gotta pay for it. 

But that's not the point, state wrestling tournament never had a limit on the number coaches who could get in. As long you did the rules clinic and safety course, you were good.

They did use to have a limit. 9 years ago I only had 1 qualify for state, they would only give me 1 coaches pass. I think they changed it the next year.