rjs4470 103 Report post Posted April 23, 2020 3 hours ago, wc1992 said: Yes the proposal that I saw also included girls weight classes. That was not voted upon yet just the proposal that I saw. That would be a nice step forward even if all states are not sponsoring girls wrestling yet. I hated going to high school tournaments where the girls used the same weights as the boys in a girls division. I am not a fan of the proposed lower weight changes on the boys side. I can live with the upper weight changes since many small schools can struggle to fill both 220 and 285. To me, it doesn't seem like lower weights are affected all that much....all just bumping up a pound or two, and no weight classes lost in terms of numbers. 195 seems to be the weight that goes away, as those kids will have to cut to 189 or move up to 215 and will be affected the most. A kid who's 220 now can either cut a little bit of weight, or just eat what ever they want. I think it makes 220 and 285 more competitive. Overall, I don't mind the proposal. I don't think it will be all that disruptive to the majority of teams as most teams now only have to find 3 big guys instead of 4, and one less weight class will make the days a little shorter. Hard for me to argue against the proposal. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HawkeyeX125 27 Report post Posted April 24, 2020 I agree with adjusting the weights to move closer to college, but I think they should let it be a few lbs under the college limits so kids can adjust and grow a little bit into the weight instead of cutting down if they’re still growing/maturing. I think they should be: 108,115,122,130,138,145,153,161,172,182,195,215,285. in this case there are 13 weights but there is still the 106 range weight and 215/220 range Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
panthers 62 Report post Posted April 25, 2020 I like this with the 108 but I think as it goes up in weights I would like to see change in upper weights something like this might help. 108, 115, 123, 131, 143, 155, 167, 178, 189, 200, 230 & 285 I just think it would help a big guy 240 not to have to cut 20 or Wrestle someone 45 pounds bigger. This might help get more football guys out without cutting them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
take em to the mat 29 Report post Posted April 25, 2020 Here is the breakdown of forfeits by weight in Ohio this year. 106 233 113 211 120 205 132 140 138 131 145 127 152 120 160 133 170 162 182 185 195 192 220 215 285 204 Total 2258 Per Team 3.873 583 Teams Here is the breakdown of forfeits by weight in Indiana this year. 106 110 113 103 120 94 132 59 138 52 145 41 152 50 160 49 170 51 182 69 195 73 220 75 285 63 Total 889 Per Team 2.877 309 Teams Here is the breakdown of forfeits by weight in Kentucky this year. 106 32 113 25 120 31 126 32 132 25 138 29 145 19 152 20 160 24 170 35 182 27 195 33 220 30 285 31 total 393 per team 3.93 100 teams entered in region. Is that number of teams correct?????? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BigBossMan 21 Report post Posted April 27, 2020 Keep it at 14 weigh classes. I would build around the college weight classes. 106, 113, 119, 125, 133, 141, 149, 157, 165, 174, 184, 197, 225, 285. I'd also do away with the 2 lbs. after Christmas. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
naplesme 58 Report post Posted April 28, 2020 On 4/27/2020 at 10:50 AM, BigBossMan said: Keep it at 14 weigh classes. I would build around the college weight classes. 106, 113, 119, 125, 133, 141, 149, 157, 165, 174, 184, 197, 225, 285. I'd also do away with the 2 lbs. after Christmas. I agree with this except for the doing away with the 2 lbs. Instead of doing away with the 2 lbs. let's go back to wrestlers having to make scratch weight one time to qualify for the weight class. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
halfhalfhalf 121 Report post Posted April 28, 2020 25 minutes ago, naplesme said: I agree with this except for the doing away with the 2 lbs. Instead of doing away with the 2 lbs. let's go back to wrestlers having to make scracth weight one time to qualify for the weight class. that I agree with 100% Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
halfhalfhalf 121 Report post Posted April 28, 2020 https://www.teamusa.org/USA-Wrestling/Features/2020/April/28/High-School-Wrestling-Rule-changes?fbclid=IwAR1SS3wAscNNJdK_HYJHZ7mhiwMJbolbsh9Kh76cgTbOTbNzdhFzecg-EIU Looks like the hair rule is gone folks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
halfhalfhalf 121 Report post Posted April 28, 2020 Also we will weigh in with singlets with NO Allowance. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ranger123 43 Report post Posted May 13, 2020 On 4/25/2020 at 2:58 PM, take em to the mat said: Here is the breakdown of forfeits by weight in Ohio this year. 106 233 113 211 120 205 132 140 138 131 145 127 152 120 160 133 170 162 182 185 195 192 220 215 285 204 Total 2258 Per Team 3.873 583 Teams Here is the breakdown of forfeits by weight in Indiana this year. 106 110 113 103 120 94 132 59 138 52 145 41 152 50 160 49 170 51 182 69 195 73 220 75 285 63 Total 889 Per Team 2.877 309 Teams Here is the breakdown of forfeits by weight in Kentucky this year. 106 32 113 25 120 31 126 32 132 25 138 29 145 19 152 20 160 24 170 35 182 27 195 33 220 30 285 31 total 393 per team 3.93 100 teams entered in region. Is that number of teams correct?????? When you take into account that in many circumstances we bump up a kid to fill an upper weight (which can’t happen at 106), it seems pretty clear that 106 isn’t as big of a forfeit issue as everyone makes it out to be. I guarantee a significant number of the non-forfeits at 220/285 are kids who weigh 185-200 pounds. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
heavy83 15 Report post Posted May 16, 2020 I agree that a wrestler should make scratch weight before he gets the 2lbs its not a "growth allowance"' if never made scratch its a "loss allowance" how Ky does it . I know Ohio has to make scratch first Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
take em to the mat 29 Report post Posted May 17, 2020 2 hours ago, heavy83 said: I agree that a wrestler should make scratch weight before he gets the 2lbs its not a "growth allowance"' if never made scratch its a "loss allowance" how Ky does it . I know Ohio has to make scratch first Must make scratch in Indiana. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
take em to the mat 29 Report post Posted May 17, 2020 On 5/13/2020 at 4:31 PM, Ranger123 said: When you take into account that in many circumstances we bump up a kid to fill an upper weight (which can’t happen at 106), it seems pretty clear that 106 isn’t as big of a forfeit issue as everyone makes it out to be. I guarantee a significant number of the non-forfeits at 220/285 are kids who weigh 185-200 pounds. I saw some small 220's at state. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KWR 8 Report post Posted June 2, 2020 Pennsylvania started the talk about reducing the number of weight classes. Their reasoning was the amount of forfeits that were occuring in dual meets as a great number of teams could not field full line ups. They proposed going from 14 to 12 weight classes and at one time stated they were going to do that regardless of NFHS approval, though I don't know if that's still the case. The addition of the 14th weight class in the mid 90s did open another spot for wrestlers, but I do understand that no one wants to see forfeits in dual meets. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites