Wkywrestler 5 Report post Posted February 6, 2020 In the past 4 years I think the toughest brackets at state have been 2019 - 138 or 170 2018 - 132 2017 - 106 or 120 2016 - 106 Interested in what you guys think, and what are some notable state brackets from years past Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
halfhalfhalf 121 Report post Posted February 6, 2020 126 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wrastler_ 20 Report post Posted February 6, 2020 Toughest 126 138 145 182 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DrBaker 497 Report post Posted February 6, 2020 126. Gotta be a badass to break the top 25. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hardwork15 1 Report post Posted February 6, 2020 2016 was 138 Angel Vasquez AJ Binder Trent Johnson Logan Erdman Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
halfhalfhalf 121 Report post Posted February 6, 2020 160 with TKC back in the mix is top loaded. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wkywrestler 5 Report post Posted February 7, 2020 One of the deepest weights ever in my opinion 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
halfhalfhalf 121 Report post Posted February 7, 2020 1 minute ago, Wkywrestler said: One of the deepest weights ever in my opinion Am I counting 11 state finalists from that year? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
halfhalfhalf 121 Report post Posted February 7, 2020 1 minute ago, Wkywrestler said: One of the deepest weights ever in my opinion Am I counting 11 state finalists from that year? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ukpridewrestler11 276 Report post Posted February 7, 2020 That is just silly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
halfhalfhalf 121 Report post Posted February 7, 2020 1 hour ago, ukpridewrestler11 said: That is just silly. Crazy how talented that weight class was Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ukpridewrestler11 276 Report post Posted February 7, 2020 Might be the best weight class ever when you look at the careers of everyone involved. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wkywrestler 5 Report post Posted February 7, 2020 agree Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LCalum 31 Report post Posted February 7, 2020 And some of them still adding to their resume. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ranger123 43 Report post Posted February 7, 2020 Perfect reason why we should quit crapping on the lightweights and limiting their opportunities by increasing the lightest weight class. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
grappler-of-old 44 Report post Posted February 7, 2020 35 minutes ago, Ranger123 said: Perfect reason why we should quit crapping on the lightweights and limiting their opportunities by increasing the lightest weight class. 100% agreement here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
charger 105 Report post Posted February 7, 2020 Yost!!! Had to go through some tough guys that year (even his own future teammate in Bender). Only an 8th grader at the time. People may forget Yost had Tylan Tucker right above him at 113 (#1 all year before getting injured the week of state) and Tucker Hurst at 120 (SC in 14’). We had a very competitive practice room to say the least. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DrBaker 497 Report post Posted February 7, 2020 Most of that group is still wrestling. Few in college and a lot are wrestling tomo. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FalconWrestling 147 Report post Posted February 8, 2020 5 hours ago, Ranger123 said: Perfect reason why we should quit crapping on the lightweights and limiting their opportunities by increasing the lightest weight class. As one of those guys that could barely crack 100 pounds their freshman year I know how important those small weight classes are. It's often where the future champions get their start but some people like to paint that as a bad thing for some reason 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nkawtg 137 Report post Posted February 9, 2020 On 2/7/2020 at 2:25 PM, Ranger123 said: Perfect reason why we should quit crapping on the lightweights and limiting their opportunities by increasing the lightest weight class. Spoken like a dad and not a wrestling fan. 106 should be eliminated at the varsity level. Lowest class should be 113. Too many 12 year olds competing in “high school” events. Virtually no seniors and few juniors at that weight class. Too many high school weights presently and the no-brainer move is to eliminate 106 and 220. Make 106 a JV only weight because that’s effectively what it is when 8th and 9th graders are winning it year in and year out. 1 7 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alf 43 Report post Posted February 9, 2020 7 hours ago, Nkawtg said: Spoken like a dad and not a wrestling fan. 106 should be eliminated at the varsity level. Lowest class should be 113. Too many 12 year olds competing in “high school” events. Virtually no seniors and few juniors at that weight class. Too many high school weights presently and the no-brainer move is to eliminate 106 and 220. Make 106 a JV only weight because that’s effectively what it is when 8th and 9th graders are winning it year in and year out. Your theory doesn’t appear to be true. For the bracket above from 2016 there are 14 of the 32 wrestlers that were in 10-12th grade.Thats just one year. Now I’ve met some 15 and half year old 7th and 8th graders, but I’ve never met a 12 year old 10th grader. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Salto 7 Report post Posted February 9, 2020 wrestling is the only hand to hand combat sport In HS. It is also the only HS sport to match up athletes of the same size to compete against each other. Why would you take away a athletes ability to compete if he is genetically a smaller kid? I remember when Ohio had the 98lb weight class. And they never had Jr. High athletes competing at the HS level. 9-12 only. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HJ7 8 Report post Posted February 9, 2020 (edited) 12 hours ago, Nkawtg said: Spoken like a dad and not a wrestling fan. 106 should be eliminated at the varsity level. Lowest class should be 113. Too many 12 year olds competing in “high school” events. Virtually no seniors and few juniors at that weight class. Too many high school weights presently and the no-brainer move is to eliminate 106 and 220. Make 106 a JV only weight because that’s effectively what it is when 8th and 9th graders are winning it year in and year out. Not speaking as a father but from the point of view of someone who knows a little about the human anatomy and it's development. Let's agree that the average age of an incoming freshman is 14 years old. This assumption omits any child that has failed to meet the academic requirements to advance with his peers or may have been "held back" for a variety of reasons. Now if you will look at the attached chart from the CDC pertaining to the weight for age percentiles for boys, ages 2 to 20, you will see that approximately 37.5% of 14 year old males weight 106 pounds or less. So based on this information, the "no-brainer" move to eliminate the 106 category could exclude over 1/3 of potential freshman wrestlers or make them give up a minimum of 7 pounds to compete at 113. cdc.pdf Edited February 9, 2020 by HJ7 omission of word 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rumpelstiltskin 1 Report post Posted February 9, 2020 38 minutes ago, HJ7 said: Not speaking as a father but from the point of view of someone who knows a little about the human anatomy and it's development. Let's agree that the average age of an incoming freshman is 14 years old. This assumption omits any child that has failed to meet the academic requirements to advance with his peers or may have been "held back" for a variety of reasons. Now if you will look at the attached chart from the CDC pertaining to the weight for age percentiles for boys, ages 2 to 20, you will see that approximately 37.5% of 14 year old males weight 106 pounds or less. So based on this information, the "no-brainer" move to eliminate the 106 category could exclude over 1/3 of potential freshman wrestlers or make them give up a minimum of 7 pounds to compete at 113. cdc.pdf Published 20 years ago, kids have gotten bigger Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Salto 7 Report post Posted February 9, 2020 38 minutes ago, HJ7 said: Not speaking as a father but from the point of view of someone who knows a little about the human anatomy and it's development. Let's agree that the average age of an incoming freshman is 14 years old. This assumption omits any child that has failed to meet the academic requirements to advance with his peers or may have been "held back" for a variety of reasons. Now if you will look at the attached chart from the CDC pertaining to the weight for age percentiles for boys, ages 2 to 20, you will see that approximately 37.5% of 14 year old males weight 106 pounds or less. So based on this information, the "no-brainer" move to eliminate the 106 category could exclude over 1/3 of potential freshman wrestlers or make them give up a minimum of 7 pounds to compete at 113. cdc.pdf Thank you for doing the math ! It blows my mind that WE are the only people to believe in this sport and we do NOT back the pre-disposed individual. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites