Mustang1 20 Report post Posted January 20, 2019 Some States will keep track as they seed the weight classes and draw the brackets so the Byes are balanced amongst the teams. Its not hard to do Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ranger123 43 Report post Posted January 20, 2019 17 hours ago, DrBaker said: Lol. I liked the old parties when Union could send 9 #1 seeds to state. Not gonna happen this time. Definitely tougher. Developing some depth around the state. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
8224 17 Report post Posted January 20, 2019 In Indiana for the state tournament series we start at the sectional level with 8 or 16 man brackets. Out of 32 sectionals there are 5 with only 8 teams. The other 27 have between 9 and 12 teams per sectional. To avoid a team getting an advantage by drawing forfeits vs. byes (Yes you can get points from the bye if you win your next match but those are just advancement points. You could get 2 points for the bye if you win the next match but another team that drew a forfeit would get 4 points) the first round in a 16 man bracket is not scored. For example one year about 15 years ago the team I coached started the sectional behind by 32 points to the one team that had a real chance of beating us for the championship. They had drawn 8 forfeits in the first round while we did not get any forfeits. They went on to beat us by 2 points that year. Even in those 8 classes where they got the 4 points for the forfeit and we did win our next match after the bye we could only gain 16 points compared to their 32. That is after we actually won a match compared to them just being lucky in the draw. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DrBaker 497 Report post Posted January 24, 2019 Hearing that Rider is out for the season with his foot/ankle. Sad news. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ukpridewrestler11 276 Report post Posted January 24, 2019 On 1/20/2019 at 3:45 PM, 8224 said: In Indiana for the state tournament series we start at the sectional level with 8 or 16 man brackets. Out of 32 sectionals there are 5 with only 8 teams. The other 27 have between 9 and 12 teams per sectional. To avoid a team getting an advantage by drawing forfeits vs. byes (Yes you can get points from the bye if you win your next match but those are just advancement points. You could get 2 points for the bye if you win the next match but another team that drew a forfeit would get 4 points) the first round in a 16 man bracket is not scored. For example one year about 15 years ago the team I coached started the sectional behind by 32 points to the one team that had a real chance of beating us for the championship. They had drawn 8 forfeits in the first round while we did not get any forfeits. They went on to beat us by 2 points that year. Even in those 8 classes where they got the 4 points for the forfeit and we did win our next match after the bye we could only gain 16 points compared to their 32. That is after we actually won a match compared to them just being lucky in the draw. Makes sense not scoring the first round. It should be like that over here to avoid the advantages some teams get by those easy first round matchups. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dc8017 1 Report post Posted January 26, 2019 Sad to hear about Malachi Rider. Get well soon !! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DrBaker 497 Report post Posted January 26, 2019 I'm hearing it's not true now. Hope he will be back. Kid that good can get some attention at the national level. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DrBaker 497 Report post Posted February 1, 2019 More matches are getting put into Track everyday. I'll keep updating as I see them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
