Grappler 19 Report post Posted January 28, 2017 Figured someone else would have already started this thread. Nobody did, so I'll start. Let's talk about some of the great light weights this state has seen. I'll name a few. Ervin, Fahy, Yenter, Fausz, Ruschell, Blackwell. The neat thing about this group is that they all competed against each other and trained/travelled together at times. That's 6 division one starters. Look back at some of those state tournament brackets. It's pretty cool. There were a lot more really good kids in those lightweight brackets. It's amazing what Brock was able to accomplish in his high school career. I could start to list all of the stud lightweights in Kentucky this year, but the list would be too long and I am afraid I would miss some. Been at this a long time and I can promise you that we will be watching some of these kids on ESPN 3 and the Big 10 network in the future. I haven't been around Kentucky that long, so give me some other lightweight studs that need a little love. Sick of being told I need to check out what is being said on this site. From the looks of it, this site hardly gets anyone posting anymore. Let's keep it positive. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nike Man 292 Report post Posted January 28, 2017 Jason Talbot, Carmen bros, Josh Preece, Coty Lewis, and Rusty Parks were all hammers back in the day. Talbot- 2 or 3 timer Carmen's combined- 3 or 4 Preece- 2 timer Lewis - 3 x finalist 1x champ Parks- 1x champ and then dealt with injuries Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ukpridewrestler11 276 Report post Posted January 28, 2017 Coty Lewis knew how to fire a crowd up in the Convention center that's for sure. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zeus 117 Report post Posted January 28, 2017 The Carmens won two titles, one each in 98 and 99 I believe. In addition to being a champ, Parks placed 5th as a freshman and junior before tearing his ACL. Kyle Ruschell- 2x champ at 103 and 119 Nathan Boston- 2x champ in KY, ranked #1 in the country his senior year. Matt Zarth- 3x champ in 07, 08 and 09 at 119 Travis Sullivan- 2x champ, maybe 3... Billy Clark- 1x champ in 02 but was for sure the best wrestler at 103 probably two other years, just didn't win. Beat by a 19-year old senior as a sophomore and then I think got hurt as a junior. Billy should also get more love on this site especially... Chris Valentine- back in the days right before the weight-cutting rules came into play, physically a man among boys in 96 at 103. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LCalum 31 Report post Posted January 28, 2017 Scott Cooper from LaRue. 3rd, 2nd, 2X champ 00-03' Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nike Man 292 Report post Posted January 28, 2017 20 minutes ago, Zeus said: The Carmens won two titles, one each in 98 and 99 I believe. In addition to being a champ, Parks placed 5th as a freshman and junior before tearing his ACL. Kyle Ruschell- 2x champ at 103 and 119 Nathan Boston- 2x champ in KY, ranked #1 in the country his senior year. Matt Zarth- 3x champ in 07, 08 and 09 at 119 Travis Sullivan- 2x champ, maybe 3... Billy Clark- 1x champ in 02 but was for sure the best wrestler at 103 probably two other years, just didn't win. Beat by a 19-year old senior as a sophomore and then I think got hurt as a junior. Billy should also get more love on this site especially... Chris Valentine- back in the days right before the weight-cutting rules came into play, physically a man among boys in 96 at 103. Thought Dan Carmen was a 1 timer and little bro Drew was a 2 timer. Can't remember for sure though. Your list is definitely hammers though. Chris Valentine was a Michael Jackson before there was a Michael Jackson. The guy was huge for a 103! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zeus 117 Report post Posted January 28, 2017 Scott Cooper was obviously a hammer with only two losses ever in KY. However his two titles both came at 140. Not exactly a small guy, even though I know he was smaller as a freshman and sophomore. You could say Luke Metzger I guess, 1st as a freshman at 103, 3rd at 119, 1st at 135, then robbed as 2nd at 140. This is almost another example of a bigger guy, but he did win a title at 103. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zeus 117 Report post Posted January 28, 2017 Forgot a great one... Jason Daviaux from Scott HS, 2x champ. The definition of slick! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
justaref 37 Report post Posted January 28, 2017 20 hours ago, Zeus said: The Carmens won two titles, one each in 98 and 99 I believe. In addition to being a champ, Parks placed 5th as a freshman and junior before tearing his ACL. Kyle Ruschell- 2x champ at 103 and 119 Nathan Boston- 2x champ in KY, ranked #1 in the country his senior year. Matt Zarth- 3x champ in 07, 08 and 09 at 119 Travis Sullivan- 2x champ, maybe 3... Billy Clark- 1x champ in 02 but was for sure the best wrestler at 103 probably two other years, just didn't win. Beat by a 19-year old senior as a sophomore and then I think got hurt as a junior. Billy should also get more love on this site especially... Chris Valentine- back in the days right before the weight-cutting rules came into play, physically a man among boys in 96 at 103. Sullivan used to toss kids around like rag dolls something ferocious. I'd say he's definitely the most intense little guy I've ever watched wrestle. I thought he was a 3 timer? Ruschell was great. I always heard stories about Joe Carr Jr., never personally seen him wrestle though. Knable was always a great, ended up at 145 but has a title at 112. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grappler 19 Report post Posted January 28, 2017 How in the heck did I miss Boston in that first group? And believe it or not, Justin Lampe was a little guy in his younger years. That makes 8 division 1 starters. That's impressive. Some of the other ones I can think of that I had the honor to watch. Bradbury, Zarth, Elam, Sullivan (the match between him and Spencer was awesome to watch). On a side note, I miss the dungeon. That place was special. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zeus 117 Report post Posted January 28, 2017 Sullivan won for sure as a sophomore, was getting beat as a junior then locked up a double arm bar and stuck the kid, then lost as a senior. I'm not sure if he won as a freshman. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NatureBoy 117 Report post Posted January 28, 2017 5 hours ago, Grappler said: How in the heck did I miss Boston in that first group? And believe it or not, Justin Lampe was a little guy in his younger years. That makes 8 division 1 starters. That's impressive. Some of the other ones I can think of that I had the honor to watch. Bradbury, Zarth, Elam, Sullivan (the match between him and Spencer was awesome to watch). On a side note, I miss the dungeon. That place was special. YOU MISSED BOSTON AND JAYCE CARR who is/was D1 AND ANOTHER PERSON WHO WRESTLED SOME OF THEM IN HIGH SCHOOL WHO WASNT D1 but was a Nat q NAIA and is coaching Today. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
three 9 Report post Posted January 28, 2017 Sullivan won a title 9th, 10th, 11th and got some rough stalling calls in his title match his senior year . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ukpridewrestler11 276 Report post Posted January 28, 2017 Jarvis Elam wrestled two years varsity and got 4th then 1st. His first two years of high school he was the third string 103 pounder behind Aaron and Adam Carr. That's a stack group of 103s at one school. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
UniPeck 15 Report post Posted January 29, 2017 Tom Cibull 93'-119 & 94'-125 Beast! We used to scrimmage Tates Creek in the middle of the season back in the day. Tom and Tim Lawson would go at it, I mean watch out! Tom was givin up 10 lbs and it was a dog fight. I remember Coach Green and Headly putting a stop to it. They were hitting doubles from the hardwood floor. I think Tom hurt his neck in college. Tom and Tim went to Eastern Michigan (D1) to wrestle together. Drew Carmen was a 2x finalist 1x Champ. Brother Dan 1x, I believe Dan placed 3rd in 96. That was also a good corner of the mat in practice...throw in Coach Headly into the mix. IMHO Garrett Headly is they best light weight coach in Kentucky history. He has the most Champs without a team championship of any coach. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grappler 19 Report post Posted January 30, 2017 On 1/28/2017 at 2:12 PM, NatureBoy said: YOU MISSED BOSTON AND JAYCE CARR who is/was D1 AND ANOTHER PERSON WHO WRESTLED SOME OF THEM IN HIGH SCHOOL WHO WASNT D1 but was a Nat q NAIA and is coaching Today. Not sure what the all CAPS thing means. I did not forget Jayce or Stephen. I listed a group of kids that competed and trained together from middle school through high school. Jayce was always a little heavier than them through middle school and not in their bracket at the high school state tournament. Stephen was a great one, but I considered him a middle weight when he moved to Kentucky. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grappler 19 Report post Posted January 30, 2017 On 1/28/2017 at 4:31 PM, ukpridewrestler11 said: Jarvis Elam wrestled two years varsity and got 4th then 1st. His first two years of high school he was the third string 103 pounder behind Aaron and Adam Carr. That's a stack group of 103s at one school. That's impressive. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CradleKY 132 Report post Posted January 30, 2017 Knable won 112 as a freshman and that weight class had: 4th Anthony Smith: Two time finalist, 4 time placer 6th Chad Haydon: state champ, All American 2nd Jason Daviaux: 2 time champ, 3 time finalist 5th Neal Crawford: state champ DNP Josh Kenneweg: finalist Stacked weight class like that won by a freshman is ridiculously impressive. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BroOfCoach 23 Report post Posted January 31, 2017 On 1/28/2017 at 0:00 AM, Zeus said: The Carmens won two titles, one each in 98 and 99 I believe. In addition to being a champ, Parks placed 5th as a freshman and junior before tearing his ACL. Kyle Ruschell- 2x champ at 103 and 119 Nathan Boston- 2x champ in KY, ranked #1 in the country his senior year. Matt Zarth- 3x champ in 07, 08 and 09 at 119 Travis Sullivan- 2x champ, maybe 3... Billy Clark- 1x champ in 02 but was for sure the best wrestler at 103 probably two other years, just didn't win. Beat by a 19-year old senior as a sophomore and then I think got hurt as a junior. Billy should also get more love on this site especially... Chris Valentine- back in the days right before the weight-cutting rules came into play, physically a man among boys in 96 at 103. Definitely a great group there! Sullivan was indeed a 3x champ and was undefeated for his entire career until the finals his senior year. I think he was 23x-0 or something crazy like that. He was a dominant champion who really did toss opponents around like a rag doll, especially his freshman and sophomore years, as someone else said before me. Zarth was another great wrestler who I think doesn't get the credit he deserves as one of the best our state has seen. He had a certain intensity about him that is seldom seen in Kentucky. Of course Billy Clark belongs on the list. He was one of the biggest 103/112 to ever wrestle in Kentucky. Mean high crotch and was great on top. Should have been a multi-time state champion, but appendicitis his junior year wrecked those plans. Surprised no one has mentioned Jacob Murton... I mean, he beat Jordan Burroughs among other things. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
justaref 37 Report post Posted January 31, 2017 2 hours ago, BroOfCoach said: Definitely a great group there! Sullivan was indeed a 3x champ and was undefeated for his entire career until the finals his senior year. I think he was 23x-0 or something crazy like that. He was a dominant champion who really did toss opponents around like a rag doll, especially his freshman and sophomore years, as someone else said before me. Zarth was another great wrestler who I think doesn't get the credit he deserves as one of the best our state has seen. He had a certain intensity about him that is seldom seen in Kentucky. Of course Billy Clark belongs on the list. He was one of the biggest 103/112 to ever wrestle in Kentucky. Mean high crotch and was great on top. Should have been a multi-time state champion, but appendicitis his junior year wrecked those plans. Surprised no one has mentioned Jacob Murton... I mean, he beat Jordan Burroughs among other things. I think it's mainly because both Murtons by the time they were seniors were ~145 at least if I am recalling correctly. Same reason Knable isn't listed by every poster here, he ended his career at roughly 'medium guy weight'. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BroOfCoach 23 Report post Posted January 31, 2017 7 hours ago, justaref said: I think it's mainly because both Murtons by the time they were seniors were ~145 at least if I am recalling correctly. Same reason Knable isn't listed by every poster here, he ended his career at roughly 'medium guy weight'. Jacob finished at 135, so yeah, he is on the edge. Jairus was heavier. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
justaref 37 Report post Posted January 31, 2017 4 minutes ago, BroOfCoach said: Jacob finished at 135, so yeah, he is on the edge. Jairus was heavier. I just remember watching Johnny W. from Fern Creek and Murton going head to head in the room in the off season of like 07, made him seem bigger (John was ~145-160). Jarius was indeed bigger. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jrodc 20 Report post Posted January 31, 2017 Was Brad Cooper S K a small guy with 3 titles and a 2nd Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CradleKY 132 Report post Posted January 31, 2017 Cooper was nasty. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zeus 117 Report post Posted January 31, 2017 1 hour ago, Jrodc said: Was Brad Cooper S K a small guy with 3 titles and a 2nd His senior year he wrestled 135, which is kind of big for a "small guy" in my opinion. I know his junior year he was 130, and I imagine smaller than that as a sophomore when he won his first title. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
