Early state picks

[itsBoston 62]

1 hour ago, Take-em-down said:

You are right !!   Rider will be making the jump to 165.  Next year when he goes to College !! LOL For this year he’s staying at 157, he’s never been a kid to go up or down to get away or chase kids. He finishes the year where he starts no matter who comes or goes, and that might have hurt him alittle in the past, but its his choice. Good Luck to everyone the rest of the season.  

Trying to get some troll action going lol Don't shoot It down before It gets going

[PPmothman 24]

Ren Birk will have a real chance to win it at 144. Be between him and George. TJ and Roberts is a toss up for 3/4. Seen Ren beat a d1 commit and nationally ranked kid this weekend to win a big tournament. 
Evans was still at 138. Doubt he goes any where. Should make the finals at 138 (depending on the draw). Then anything can happen.  

[18904 0]

1 hour ago, PPmothman said:

Ren Birk will have a real chance to win it at 144. Be between him and George. TJ and Roberts is a toss up for 3/4. Seen Ren beat a d1 commit and nationally ranked kid this weekend to win a big tournament. 
Evans was still at 138. Doubt he goes any where. Should make the finals at 138 (depending on the draw). Then anything can happen.  

Who did he beat?

[PPmothman 24]

19 minutes ago, 18904 said:

Who did he beat?

Tyler Roark from Woodrow Wilson. 

[itsBoston 62]

16 hours ago, PPmothman said:

Ren Birk will have a real chance to win it at 144. Be between him and George. TJ and Roberts is a toss up for 3/4. Seen Ren beat a d1 commit and nationally ranked kid this weekend to win a big tournament. 
Evans was still at 138. Doubt he goes any where. Should make the finals at 138 (depending on the draw). Then anything can happen.  

I haven't had the chance to watch Ren this year but he's always impressed me. I wouldn't be shocked to see him win one this year up at a more comfortable weight class and I think he will get better as he adjusts to the "bigger" guys. 

[Alien01 23]

I think the top 5-10 in any weight class after Regionals is done can win the whole thing so every weight class has multiple potential dark horses even though there are favorites for sure.

[Jimbobert 22]

16 minutes ago, Alien01 said:

I think the top 5-10 in any weight class after Regionals is done can win the whole thing so every weight class has multiple potential dark horses even though there are favorites for sure.

I couldn't disagree more. 150 to 175 are all pretty much 2 maybe 3 guys fighting for the championship. I don't even think 144 has 10 guys that could win it, and it's arguably the deepest 

[itsBoston 62]

What weight class do you see the number 4 kid having a chance to win a title outside of maybe 144 and HWT, much less 5-10?

106 Braxton probably pins his way through

113 Wells Pins or techs his way through

120 Has some potential but Davis Tech/Pinning Roman who is #2 makes it hard to bet against him.

126 Another weight with some potential but Cornwell and Blevins have already dominated everyone else at the weight.

132 Raney pins through

138 Raney pins through

144 First weight I wouldn't be shocked at 3 different champs.

150 Johns/Jenkins have a lock. (Smith is my dark horse)

157 Rider has already pinned Micah twice and Micah is probably a major or more better than the rest of the field. Not saying Micah cant make it happen at state, but 2 horse race.

165 Miller by major in finals in my opinion.

175 Ricketts pins through if he wants

190 Couple different possible champs

215 Marcus James dominates everyone

HWT Couple different possible champs

 

Not a ton of depth for title contention right now. I think the depth for placement is pretty good, but the top guys have seemed to widen the gap. 

[itsBoston 62]

1 minute ago, Jimbobert said:

I couldn't disagree more. 150 to 175 are all pretty much 2 maybe 3 guys fighting for the championship. I don't even think 144 has 10 guys that could win it, and it's arguably the deepest 

jinx you owe me a soda

[pin4thewin 35]

33 minutes ago, Elite Training Center KY said:

What weight class do you see the number 4 kid having a chance to win a title outside of maybe 144 and HWT, much less 5-10?

106 Braxton probably pins his way through

113 Wells Pins or techs his way through

120 Has some potential but Davis Tech/Pinning Roman who is #2 makes it hard to bet against him.

126 Another weight with some potential but Cornwell and Blevins have already dominated everyone else at the weight.

132 Raney pins through

138 Raney pins through

144 First weight I wouldn't be shocked at 3 different champs.

150 Johns/Jenkins have a lock. (Smith is my dark horse)

157 Rider has already pinned Micah twice and Micah is probably a major or more better than the rest of the field. Not saying Micah cant make it happen at state, but 2 horse race.

165 Miller by major in finals in my opinion.

175 Ricketts pins through if he wants

190 Couple different possible champs

215 Marcus James dominates everyone

HWT Couple different possible champs

 

Not a ton of depth for title contention right now. I think the depth for placement is pretty good, but the top guys have seemed to widen the gap. 

I agree, I think most weights come down to one or two guys, with a clear favorite in a lot of them. The only weight I'm not really sure on is 144, could see any of the top 3-4 coming away with that, which is an even wilder weight if evans comes up to avoid a Raney.

[Alien01 23]

On 2/4/2025 at 11:57 AM, itsBoston said:

What weight class do you see the number 4 kid having a chance to win a title outside of maybe 144 and HWT, much less 5-10?

106 Braxton probably pins his way through

113 Wells Pins or techs his way through

120 Has some potential but Davis Tech/Pinning Roman who is #2 makes it hard to bet against him.

126 Another weight with some potential but Cornwell and Blevins have already dominated everyone else at the weight.

132 Raney pins through

138 Raney pins through

144 First weight I wouldn't be shocked at 3 different champs.

150 Johns/Jenkins have a lock. (Smith is my dark horse)

157 Rider has already pinned Micah twice and Micah is probably a major or more better than the rest of the field. Not saying Micah cant make it happen at state, but 2 horse race.

165 Miller by major in finals in my opinion.

175 Ricketts pins through if he wants

190 Couple different possible champs

215 Marcus James dominates everyone

HWT Couple different possible champs

 

Not a ton of depth for title contention right now. I think the depth for placement is pretty good, but the top guys have seemed to widen the gap. 

First of all the rankings do not reflect who is actually number 4-10 right now anyway until after Regionals IMO,lets revisit this thread after state and see how the rankings matched up to the winners and placers if we could.

[Jimbobert 22]

10 hours ago, Alien01 said:

First of all the rankings do not reflect who is actually number 4-10 right now anyway until after Regionals IMO,lets revisit this thread after state and see how the rankings matched up to the winners and placers if we could.

 

[DrBaker 529]

A few weight classes have sorted themselves out, but there are no guarantees.

at 106: Corbett is a big favorite, but Brinkman is unbeaten in Ky and haven't seen each other.

120: Davis does have the lead, but he hasn't wrestled Ramsey, Valera, or whoever Ryle puts in. Cornwell or Page can hang with any of them.

126: Anyone can win this in the top 13. Zac Scott is a state finalist with 1 loss and its out of state. Again with Ryle- both kids are incredible. Clifford is on a tear. Blevins has only lost in Ohio.  Nance, Rogers, and Smith have all had battles.

144: The top 3 are all awesome. Dennis, Meyer, and Birk. Now throw in Heisler and possibly Evans and it gets deep. Lots of seniors looking for that last shot. This weight will be fun to watch unfold.

150: Seems like a 2 man race, but a couple others can surprise people. Smith, Hicks, and Gist are unbeaten in Ky. A few other seniors will make a push. I hope Johns and Jenkins are on opposite sides of the bracket.

190: Wilson is the favorite with a OT win over Vinson and no losses in KY. Allen is unbeaten. Steiber is unbeaten in Ky and a rough schedule. Davis is a senior with his only in state loss to Wilson.

215: Marcus James has pinned or teched everyone including Hyden and Hyden has a win over defending state champ Jack James. A couple more seniors can step up here and make noise- Wallace, Lyons, and Fox.

HWT: Mooney is the favorite if he's healthy. McClure is a giant grown man that can beat any of them. Roth is unbeaten with all pins and techs. This class can be anyone's. Lots of seniors can go on a tear and make finals. Happens every year. Lots of pinners in this group. I wouldn't be surprised at all if the 4th ranked kid wins it all.

With the other classes, I see clear cut favorites, but with injuries and sickness, who knows?

[itsBoston 62]

On 2/9/2025 at 2:14 PM, Alien01 said:

First of all the rankings do not reflect who is actually number 4-10 right now anyway until after Regionals IMO,lets revisit this thread after state and see how the rankings matched up to the winners and placers if we could.

You are kind of making my point here. At most weights the guys 4-10 are so far off of the top 2-3 guys it isn't funny and could flip and flop. There just isn't much title contention depth at most weights past the top 2-3 guys. 

[Alien01 23]

On 2/10/2025 at 1:40 AM, Jimbobert said:

 

Not for revisiting after all is said and done?

[Alien01 23]

3 hours ago, itsBoston said:

You are kind of making my point here. At most weights the guys 4-10 are so far off of the top 2-3 guys it isn't funny and could flip and flop. There just isn't much title contention depth at most weights past the top 2-3 guys. 

Thats possible,thats why its great to revisit these predictions after State to see how accurate these crystal ball pronouncements are. Have to factor in injury,illness,bad calls,etc.  

[Jimbobert 22]

10 minutes ago, Alien01 said:

Not for revisiting after all is said and done?

We will all see the results of state. I think the rankings are pretty accurate. To be fair I don't know much about guys that are ranked 4-10. Most weight classes the 4-10 guys are not on the same level as the "contenders".

I just didn't understand what point you're trying to make 

[Regional Qualifier 16]

106 - Brinkman. 

113 - Wells, easily.

120 - Davis, easily.  Has people running in both directions from him (Wells and Cornwell).

126 - Blevins

132 - Raney.  Easily.  His competition should be the clock and how quickly he can finish five matches.

138 - Raney.  See 132.

144 - Ren.  He came close before, and gets another look at George at regionals.  He will figure him out and will get it done.

150 - Johns.  Jenkins is tough but Isaac is a pure wrestler. 

157 - Trumble.  It's his to lose.

165 - Miller.  Easily.

175 - Ricketts.  However he wants.

190 - Wilson.

215 - M. James.

285 - Mooney.

 

Disclaimer:  I truly have no idea on 190, 215, HWT.

[itsBoston 62]

3 hours ago, Regional Qualifier said:

106 - Brinkman. 

113 - Wells, easily.

120 - Davis, easily.  Has people running in both directions from him (Wells and Cornwell).

126 - Blevins

132 - Raney.  Easily.  His competition should be the clock and how quickly he can finish five matches.

138 - Raney.  See 132.

144 - Ren.  He came close before, and gets another look at George at regionals.  He will figure him out and will get it done.

150 - Johns.  Jenkins is tough but Isaac is a pure wrestler. 

157 - Trumble.  It's his to lose.

165 - Miller.  Easily.

175 - Ricketts.  However he wants.

190 - Wilson.

215 - M. James.

285 - Mooney.

 

Disclaimer:  I truly have no idea on 190, 215, HWT.

Wells doesn't cut much to make 113 and majored Nico Desalvo who is ranked 12th in the country and lost to Cj Caines 12-9 who's currently ranked 2nd in the country. Ill take Wells over Davis. On the flip side of that I think Cornwell cuts a decent amount to make 120 and he doesn't see the point if he can win it at 126 (Blevins and Davis is a toss up IMO).

I agree with pretty much everywhere else, even the no idea part on 190-HWT lol

[Alien01 23]

Miller has no challengers at 165?

[itsBoston 62]

3 minutes ago, Alien01 said:

Miller has no challengers at 165?

I don't see any legit challengers. Ray or Matney may be able to keep it close, but I don't see either of them getting the job done unless Miller is 100% focused on Football career and just going through the motions with wrestling. If that's the case I could see an upset but still a long shot. 

[Alien01 23]

5 minutes ago, itsBoston said:

I don't see any legit challengers. Ray or Matney may be able to keep it close, but I don't see either of them getting the job done unless Miller is 100% focused on Football career and just going through the motions with wrestling. If that's the case I could see an upset but still a long shot. 

Hes just technically superior to the whole field? Ray? Bishop? Etc. I have seen the gap between the Raneys and their fields and Davis,Johns , Ricketts and Wells too but the rest of these weights not seeing it. But not familiar with Miller as much.

[itsBoston 62]

Sure you can say that. I'm not sure how you measure the term "being a dawg" but Miller measures pretty high in that area. 

[Regional Qualifier 16]

Miller is very technically sound.  He is also long and strong.  Anything can happen, but outside of a huge upset he cruises.

 

I also feel the same way about Trumble at 157.

[Regional Qualifier 16]

1 hour ago, itsBoston said:

Wells doesn't cut much to make 113 and majored Nico Desalvo who is ranked 12th in the country and lost to Cj Caines 12-9 who's currently ranked 2nd in the country. Ill take Wells over Davis. On the flip side of that I think Cornwell cuts a decent amount to make 120 and he doesn't see the point if he can win it at 126 (Blevins and Davis is a toss up IMO).

I agree with pretty much everywhere else, even the no idea part on 190-HWT lol

I know Wells is legit, and I’d put him at #3 to #4 if I did a pound for pound list, I just mean that there is no risk for him at 113, and I do not fault him for going there.  Maybe he beats Davis, but the size difference there between him and Wells poses a threat to a potential 2nd state title.