GooglyMoogly

LOL. He is pictured in a photo from last year you clown. You got three different UC fans in here arguing with each other. You other knuckleheads need to follow Dr. Baker's lead and show some class. We have a governing body that determines athletic eligibility and I assume since Mays was on top of the podium at their event the KHSAA said he was cleared to compete. Having said that, all I have seen from that young man this year is a passion for the sport and character that should be modeled by all.

Was riding time suggested?

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He's not your buddy, guy...

In what way is this crazy? Your own middle school tournament(Battle of the Brave) charges $25 per individual and it is held in a school gym. You should probably let Josh Walls and Robert Ervin know they are taking advantage of kids charging so much for a tournament. We'll be expecting some prize money for the winners Saturday as well. SMH

Lol. Why?

It's a great idea. We are doing a pretty close version of it this year. We don't have 6-8 dedicated coaches, but that is not for a lack of trying. March 27th - FS/GR Mini Camp @ Bellarine (Session 1 - Technique, Session 2 - Minimal Technique/Mostly Live) 32 male wrestlers attended April 23rd - FS/GR Mini Camp @ Bellarmine (Session 1 - Technique, Session 2 - Minimal Technique/Mostly Live) 30 male wrestlers attended April 30th - FS/GR State @ Taylor County 114 Total wrestlers attended June 5th - FS/GR Mini Camp @ Bellarmine (Session 1 - Technique, Session 2 - Minimal Technique/Mostly Live) The flyer with this information was sent out and posted multiple times. It was handed to the majority of coaches at the high school and middle school/youth state tournaments. We had 50 different male wrestlers attend the two camps. The opportunity is there. I have seen it work in other states so that is why we are doing it this way here. Bottom line is...COACHES DRIVE PARTICIPATION IN THE OFFSEASON! If coaches aren't involved then the vast majority of wrestlers aren't either.

Bahahahahaha...this is sarcasm right?

Pennsylvania has triple the population of Kentucky, but that isn't a great excuse when Oklahoma(.5 million less) and Iowa(1.4 million less) have much greater success than we do. What it comes down to is a lack of coaches. Specifically, a lack of coaches who are committed beyond the season. No division one teams in the last 30 years/a low number of other college programs are a major contributor to this.

Everyone registers late! There were 70 wrestlers at two selection clinics so we should see a good turnout Saturday.

Yes. April 30th in Louisville. There will be a flyer out soon.

Hard to evaluate your buddies/peers effectively. I am not saying assignors shouldn't be a part of the process, but they shouldn't be the only form of evaluating officials either. I was talking to my high school coach yesterday and he was pretty blown away that we don't have a way to evaluate officials. We are way behind the state he coaches in, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't be doing everything we can to elevate the level of wrestling here.

We need a way to evaluate officials after every competition. Often when we compete in other states the officials are giving out their 'number' so coaches can evaluate them. The officials with the highest ratings through the year are selected for the post season/state tournament. This is pretty common sense in my opinion. If you take pride in being an official I imagine you would also like to be selected to work the state tournament. A rating process would create competition. Competition incentives people to improve. If you don't improve you don't get selected. How is this difficult to understand? Perfection is not demanded from officials. Competency is demanded from officials during the post season. Because there is no evaluation officials are an untouchable class in the KY wrestling community and have zero incentive to improve outside of their own intrinsic motivation. If you have been officiating for 10, 20, 30 years there probably isn't a whole lot of motivation to improve your skills. This is how we get incompetent officials at the state tournament. eh hem, stalling, stalling, stalling, stalling, stalling, dq! Your reasoning is flawed regarding coaches evaluating officials. Lets say an official works 6 tournaments and 6 duals through the season(I know most are doing much more especially if you include middle school/youth). Lets say there is an average of 10 teams across those tournaments and only 2 teams per dual meet. That's 72 evaluations during the season. If we don't incentivize/penalize coaches for doing/not doing the evaluations maybe we get 75% submitted. So on the low end we would have 54 evaluations to build an aggregate. Doing this would create a pretty clear picture of an officials competency. There will be outliers for sure. Especially if a coach is pissed off about a match, but 30 pissed off coaches doing evaluations is not an anomaly, it is a pattern. If I am an official who is not selected for post season and/or is not happy with my ranking I am probably going to do some self reflection and put more effort into improving my skills, mechanics, understanding of the rules, wrestling positions, etc. I am not even sure the KHSAA would need to be involved. I think it is possible for the official's association to do this on their own. Create a google form specific to each official. All submissions for that official will be aggregated and the data/comments used to rank them. It could be more intricate than this, but I just thought of the most low effort/cost effective way to do it. Coaches talk about officials. We have some good ones for sure and there are some young officials I think have real promise, but there are a few that are SOOOOOOO bad they diminish our sport's credibility and that is a problem we need to address.

I originally voted for the extended season and I agree. For the kids who are serious it is fine. The kids who are just getting introduced to it or aren't year around are struggling with it for sure.

How many middle school post-seasons do you get?

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These are rankings, not projections. Is Jayden going to win 106? Almost certainly, but he has to have some high schools results to justify a higher ranking first. I am not speaking for Ranger, but I imagine this is his reasoning. It is the same with freshman in college that we all know will finish way higher than where they start out.

Why does the KHSAA have to approve a spring FS&GR season for you to get kids to stay and wrestle?

Small school here as well. Nearly all of our wrestlers play multiple sports so I am not sure why your kids will have moved on to spring sports. Ours don't until they are done. Our kids that play fball don't quit when we start wrestling practices. Why would it be different for spring sports? Again, why won't they have much left in the tank? If an early February Championship is already maxing your kids out maybe you need to change a few things in your program.

As a coach who does youth through high school I voted for the move to March when it was first approved 3 years ago. It blows my mind how most programs don't offer any offseason opportunities to your wrestlers then some come on here and argue for a 6-8 week season. I want kids on the mat as much as I can get them. We are surrounded on all sides by states better than us. A major reason is because they just wrestle more and we want to find ways to shorten things up. Make it easier on coaches. I am not sure why they will be limping into the 'playoffs'? If your 8th graders are good enough to wrestle enough matches during high school post season to get banged up I am sure they will be fine at middle school region/state. If not they probably don't make it out of the region tournament and have a couple weekends off before they have to compete again. YOU DON"T HAVE TO START THE WEEK AFTER FALL BREAK! KY is unique in that we are allowed to practice for 6 weeks before competing. I know IL(high school) gets 2 weeks and they are rolling. This move was first voted on and approved 3 years ago. Venue issues are why we continued to have State the first weekend in February. We voted again this year and it was approved again. Less than 30 coaches were in the meeting and it seems those who are most involved want a longer season. Weird...

The Middle School Football championship game is the second weekend in November. The real solution would be to wait until December to start competing. States with March Championships already do that and I imagine we will follow suit with our middle school schedule as well.

Maybe where you are at, but our middle school football teams are still playing.

So you want to start when kids are playing fall sports and no other states around us are competing and end at Thanksgiving essentially cutting the season in half? Great idea. LOL With the dates set(hopefully for at least a few years) starting middle school events after Thanksgiving wouldn't be a bad idea though. Or just give kids more weekends off during the season.