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    Hello,
    Tornado Wrestling Club in Paducah is looking to host a competitive dual meet on 12/14/24, 12/21/24 or 12/28/24. We are also considering adjusting weight classes (adding lower weights) to accommodate youth wrestlers as well.  I know it's early, but I'm just reaching out to gauge interest and to see what dates would be most convenient for you. We have a new 30,000sq ft indoor facility that we are excited to utilize that can fit up to 8 mats if necessary. 
     
    If you're interested, please email me at ben.ellard@paducah.kyschools.us or text 405-990-7463 and let me know what team you're with.
     
    Thanks,
    Ben Ellard 

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    1 hour ago, Elite Training Center KY said:

    I get that stuff like this happens. With that being said if they seeded the KY state tournament you would literally have to watch 2 straight rounds of first and second period falls and techs. I would rather watch 2 good (or even really bad for that matter) guys battle back and forth over good guys pinning bad guys. At that point go to 16 man brackets. Pretty sure Ranger did the stats one year on guys outside of the top 16 placing and it's EXTREMELY low. This is clearly coming from a spectator and not a coach with a draw like this LOL. 

     

     

    To mitigate the issue, we could go back to semi state, remove the fluff, and have a 16 man bracket. When I wrestled in a different state, only 8 made the state bracket and placed top 4. I was surprised when I moved out here and found out Kentucky PLACES top 8. 16 man brackets can have competitive matches throughout. I’m not sure KHSAA seeds any sport, but it would definitely be beneficial in our sport. I’m not convinced anything will change, but the fixes/adjustments are not rocket science. This discussion suggests to me that we (people involved/familiar with the sport) can hash out ideas to create a better product for everyone.

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    Just now, Chris Duke said:

    Rankings are somewhat subjective, unless we have head to heads.  To say # so and so has so and so doesn’t hold much weight.  They have to go compete, my boys have been on both sides of the random draw so I get it.  It’s go time, as parents it only last for a short period of time enjoy it.  

    i understand the subjectivity of rankings, but to say there's not a gap between a top 5 kid and a #25 kid is misleading (not ascribing that to your statement). However, what's not subjective is a defending champ vs a runner up meeting in the quarters. It never fails, there are always going to be upsets at the state tournament, and I get that.  I also happen to believe the system is broken and requires a fix that is fairly simple. We can either bring back semi-state or use track to seed the tournament like we do with most every other tournament throughout the year.  Middle school seeds all the region champs with coaches input along with using track criteria.  At minimum, this is a straightforward process that can be done in 1.5 hours.  I'm just offering a solution to the wind at this point, I know haha

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    @ 126, #6 vs #7 in the first round to likely wrestle #10 2nd round, to then wrestle either #25 or #28 (most likely) in the quarters.  One would think that there's a better way to seed this thing. Hate to see top 8 wrestlers get knocked out due to draws that require them wrestling each other and #20 (by example) get on the podium by not wrestling anyone inside the top 10.  It's a lot easier to say "let them settle it on the mat" when it is somewhat seeded than when you have random draws like we do. #1 vs #3 at 120 in the quarters and #1 vs #2 at 175 in the semis is another head scratcher.  KHSAA out here teaching "life isn't fair" lessons to everyone haha 

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    1 hour ago, Ranger123 said:

    Unfortunately will probably end up being tomorrow.  WAY too busy weekend.  Girls region and 2 days of gymnastics.

    I mean, it's not like you have a wife, kids, family, job or anything else that requires your attention.  You need to prioritize making a list of kids with numbers next to their names in order to appease critical parents/coaches. 

     

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    If you want people to update results in track, then use track as criteria as a way to seed it. If coaches don’t put in their results, seeding criteria, or records, then it falls on them not the “system”. 

    I grew up in a state that wrestles for true 2nd. Those matches are always tough, but my perspective may be a minority. It’s the closest thing to a true double elimination bracket that we could have. I like it. We will never have such a thing in Kentucky, though.

    At the end of the day, “seeding” is really all about bracket placement. No better way to get separated from who you want to wrestle later in the tournament than by wrestling head to head prior to the tournament. 

     

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    I'm a techno-idiot, but I have to believe that if people use track, then the criteria is already stored in the system.  Can't they use that stored criteria to seed everyone?  Upsets will happen and maybe there are some imperfections, but it would be a travesty to see another Trent Johnson vs Bryce Sheffer kind of match in the quarters.  

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    On 1/27/2024 at 5:10 AM, gator1 said:

     What you see as common sense, I see as ignoring criteria. Meanwhile PT gets rewarded with the easier path to the finals while JC and BC battle it out. 
     

    I wouldn't throw shade at Harrison County or consider it a "reward" to wrestle them.  When it comes to duals, they show up and fight (Boyle County as well).  I appreciate their approach.  Neither PT, BC, HC, and JC are "cake walks".  Maybe the favored teams won, but not without some dogfights.  

     

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    The only thing I read was the location change. I didn’t read anything about changing the qualification process. I don’t care one way or the other. The only issue I have is a Thursday-Friday state tournament for boys and girls get the Saturday. Seems shortsighted and not thought out. Crowd is gonna be thin.

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    On 3/16/2023 at 8:51 AM, JimmyCrackedCorn said:

    That has been what bellarmine has wrestled this year. No D1 duals outside SOCON teams. Multiple club tournaments. Dodging REAL competition in an effort to make himself look good. 

    People that know wrestling know whats going on.  

     

     

    I could be wrong, but I think Citadel, Columbia, Iowa, Minnesota, Northern Iowa, Army, Navy, VMI, Iowa State, Wisconsin, South Dakota State, Wyoming are all D1 schools outside the SOCON.  If you knew wrestling, you'd probably know that.  I've learned to temper my wrestling knowledge expectations from a self-professed corn cracker.  

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    On 3/17/2023 at 2:28 PM, JimmyCrackedCorn said:

    We're not talking about your family tree 

    Hahaha the clown's got jokes!  Bellarmine was giving up 36 points per dual before he got there and may have won 1 dual.  Things are drastically changing for the better, in a very sustainable way.  Bellarmine hired the right guy.  Maybe you should stick with cracking your corn, Jimbo.

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