MLee

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  1. MLee

    State championship video reviews

    Really cool stuff! I might be able to dig up the Pat White vs Mike Lee match. I remember White treating my brother like the little boy he was the whole match UNTIL Mike threw him in a neck wrench that woke the crowd up. White was a man-child. I was glad I didn't have to wrestle him! That team was loaded too.
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    2022 State recap

    I agree its a huge commitment to wrestle, but it's not unlike other sports. Track events are filled with kids and spectators. The time waiting to time participating ratio is very similar to wrestling. Know of any travel baseball or select soccer families? You don't see them in the Spring/Summer. AAU Bball kids play games on Saturday's and Sunday's. During their off days, I'd say a similar % are getting additional skills training. Although HS games are on Friday night, most good HS Fball teams have film study and workouts Saturday mornings. My daughter does competitive cheer (unfortunately). She goes 6 days a week. Hell, nobody practices more than our local HS band! I don't think the commitment spooks kids. Poorly ran programs and events turn kids/parents off. I agree, we can reduce the time spent at the gyms, but I don't think that is the main issue with participation.
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    2022 State recap

    Why stop at nationally ranked HS kids? Why not compare NCAA AA's as an evaluator? I recall having a very similar discussion with a former college teammate from NE OH about this subject. I actually was bragging about the young talent we had at that time in KY (I believe you were one of them!) He then proceeded to tell me that his HS team had more NCAA AA's in the previous 5 (it may have been 10) years than our whole state has had ever. That really put things into perspective for me. We'll never have what they have. Might as well accept it and move on. It doesn't mean our elite cannot compete vs theirs. Ours have and will continue to do so. But we should spend more time marketing our sport and focusing on participation. It's a #'s game. The more athletes we get interested in our sport, the more that will end up at training centers like yours and learning from the best coaches our state has to offer. My 8th grader stopped wrestling and is now involved with travel football, travel basketball, and competitive track. I've seen firsthand 1000's of better than average KY athletes that has never sniffed a wrestling mat. We have the committed athletes. They're just choosing other sports.
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    You Make the Call

    Ha, another way of looking at it. During that 3:18 seconds where he got hit 5 times for stalling, he was scoring a point per 18 seconds. That scoring pace equates to 20 points per match. Maybe he was just tired from scoring all those points!
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    You Make the Call

    That match was a disaster. Red got hit w/ 5 stall calls in 3:18 seconds. During that time, he scored 11 points as well. He ended up w/ 15 points. Green didn’t score one takedown. The ref also called this out of bounds, which would have been another takedown by red.
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    You Make the Call

    In a 5 minute match no less! I still can’t get over that one. I was watching it live on Flo and switched over to watch another match w/ about 20 seconds left. Once I saw the DQ I assumed I missed a fight or something.
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    Not good KHSAA

    Great post. "Perfection is not demanded from officials. Competency is demanded from officials during the post season." Sums it up pretty well.
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    All time Goats

    Man, what an oversight on my part. How did I forget about him. I remember watching Sheffer rip through a tough Rumble bracket like hot butter one year. I believe he beat an undefeated kid from Elder in the finals. He was so poised and technical on his feet. Very fun to watch. I believe Cole was my towel boy that day!
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    All time Goats

    **Update** 125- Cole Thomas 135- John Fahy Sorry Barnes...
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    All time Goats

    Was in a discussion over the weekend. What other 4 X'ers went undefeated in KY? I know ATM never lost. Did anyone from KY beat Brock, Fahy, Courtney, Knable, Clarkston, or Harden? I don't think anyone touched Brock or Knable, but not 100%. Did Courtney ever lose from 9th-12th? No clue on Clarkston or Harden.
  11. MLee

    120 finals prayer

    Very cool. Congrats to both kids on great seasons. Takes a special kid to lose a match, but still be composed enough to participate in a prayer. Parents and coaches should be proud of both wrestlers!
  12. MLee

    Not good KHSAA

    Who determined it doesn’t need to be from a breakdown? The situations in the rule book are very specific by design..so they’re not misinterpreted. For instance, stalling is different when your a top vs a bottom wrestler. It’s different in OT than during regulation. It’s different when you’re on the line vs being in the center of the mat. My point is, you shouldn’t use 2 different scenarios and say the rules should be applied the same. How that ankle got trapped to his butt is ENTIRELY different than the situation in the rule book you referenced.
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    Not good KHSAA

    I assume that is the situation Nathan B. referenced. If not, I’m sure he’ll correct me. If it is, I don’t see how that situation and the one we’re referencing are remotely similar.
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    Not good KHSAA

    I admit, I didn’t read the rules until after Nathan B. addressed it. After reading it, I’m still unclear. The rule book uses a specific situation where the top wrestler “grasps the far ankle and brings to the buttocks in attempting to break down the opponent.” I assume in a tight waste/far ankle breakdown then hold the ankle to the butt after bottom wresler is broken down. I think we all agree, that didn’t happen. At no time did I see top grasp the ankle and bring to bottom’s butt. The ankle got trapped as the top wrestler worked up the body for wrist control. It wouldn’t surprise me if top wrestler didn’t even know it was trapped.
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    All time Goats

    Time to add Cole Thomas to this discussion. 4x state champion, MOW as Senior. Never lost to a wrestler in KY all 4 years. Every finals opponent either was or went on to win a state championship.
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    Not good KHSAA

    KY complains about bad refs because we have some bad refs. You stated that yourself. Have you ever seen a wrestler get disqualified for stalling after scoring 15 points in a 5 minute match w/ 6 seconds left? We did this weekend. Ridiculous Again, I don’t question whether it was technically stalling. The rule speaks for itself. I just know there are situations where a no-call is warranted and in my opinion, this was clearly one of those situations. Congrats to your guy.
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    Not good KHSAA

    I’ve watched the match multiple times on Flo. Bottom’s leg does come untrapped at some point while he’s on his belly, apparently waiting for OT. I’d like to see from the rear view, but will take your word for it that it was trapped for 5 seconds or longer. Like I mentioned, he wrestled a great match. Congrats to him and all of his coaches. I think most spectators would prefer OT to settle it. I also don’t think most state champs would prefer to win that way either. Bad all around, in my opinion.
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    Not good KHSAA

    I’m guessing your emotionally tied to this match, which I’m certainly not. I’m trying to be respectful to the winner. He wrestled a great match. Generally speaking, though. Big matches shouldn’t be won by questionable stalling calls. It’s bad for the sport. I don’t care what’s in the rule book. Nobody should win a state championship bellied out while not moving a muscle while top wrestler is doing all the work.
  19. MLee

    Not good KHSAA

    Correct. I was wrong about it being the same ref.
  20. MLee

    Not good KHSAA

    I watched it on Flo. I couldn’t see the ankle trapped from the view they were broadcasting. After watching it again, I see what you’re saying. I still don’t like the call, but it is in the rules. My main issue is bottom man was bellied out not attempting a move either. Isn’t that stalling too, according to the rulebook? No dog in the fight, but that match should have been settled in OT.
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    Not good KHSAA

    Yes it was (157). Another absolutely terrible call by that ref. Such a shame.
  22. MLee

    Not good KHSAA

    Did I just watch a kid score 15 points and get stalled out of a match while up by 4 w/ :08 seconds left?? Only in KY
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    All time Goats

    Boston should be in there somewhere. I wanted Brad Cooper as well, but already had 2 Pioneers. Almost put Storms at 103 just to watch your head explode. I never seen Ritchie wrestle, but heard he was in a class of his own.
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    All time Goats

    He was an absolute monster. He pinned the defending state champion (David Donnelly) in the state finals in the 1st period (I believe) as a Sophomore. The next year, he pinned a young man by the name of Pat Martz in 17 seconds at Districts. Missed weight at Regionals and never wrestled again. Martz went on to win his 1st of 3 state championships that year.