Ranger123

A lot of excitement and movement in the rankings since the last update. I don't think I can recall anywhere near this much chaos in the 20+ years I've been doing this. As soon as I think I've found the weight that is the biggest disaster I shortly find another with an even bigger mess. Last night I literally was looking at a 9-10 way mess of kids who all beat each other. CRAZY. Add to that 3 new #1s this week and tons of shakeups in the placer spots. - On the team side, Union continues to extend their projected lead. They showed their dominance at state duals. That semis win over Larue (a really good team) was scary. - It will be interesting to see how the team dynamics play out with Region 1 being SO tough and Semi-state 1-4 being much deeper than 5-8. I don't think it affects Union a ton, but may impact the other trophy teams. - At 113 we have the wonderful A beat B beat C beat A at the top of the rankings for spots 1-3. I gave the nod to the returning state runner-up for now. - New #1 at 132 as Trumble beats Reeves at the Dragon (also a battle of teams who are struggling to keep track up to date) - New #1 at 215 as Silva beats Price in a dual on 1/21 and then Price beats Adams at state duals - Wrestler of the week is Lane Kiser the new #1 at 190. Deciding he didn't like that weight cut all the way down to 175 and moves back to a more comfortable 190 and pins #1 Virzi and gets 2 wins over #3 Mettling. - Question: What is the deal with all of the forfeits entered on track. I know we often have inexperienced computer operators, but there are dozens and dozens of match results listed as a forfeit between 2 kids. Makes it really hard to know if a match actually happened or not. Rankings_22_23_0203.pdf

Yep

while that is technically accurate, anyone sitting around waiting for region brackets to pick their weight class isn't likely winning a title. and with the semi-state weekend in the middle, bumping up a weight at the last second is very iffy just because a path "looks" better.

some regions have not held seeding meetings yet.

He wasn't able to go down until after Christmas (so up at 132 the first month + of the season).

Just as an FYI, even the dual rankings on here don't take into account actual dual results. I have a formula that uses individual rankings to calculate a projected dual meet score based on everyone being in the lineup and healthy and no weight bumps.

Dual results have virtually no impact on the individual team rankings. The team rankings are based on projected state tournament scoring.

He wrestled 126 this weekend so 126 as far as I know

2 things. As I was posting rankings I realized I think I had the date wrong on the Trinity dual event. It may have been Jan 21 as well. Either way I think it could work. But yes. Using a Saturday for the qualifier is nonsense. We could easily use weeknights in December and beginning of January to knock out those matchups.

Good points GOO. Maybe let's go with 2nd week of Jan and 4th week. Most teams already have a placeholder for state duals for the last week of the month. The Dragon is a firmly established great in state event. Let's not mess with that. So 2nd week becomes Divisional state duals weekend. Trinity already held a tough dual event that appeared to be open for a number of the top teams.

A lot of updates (light on 106), but still a LOT of results missing in track. I've heard of some match results, but have not reflected them until they hit the system. It is what it is. Union is pushing their lead out more and more each week. WOW A little biased here, but Hunter Isaacs taking out #2 Brown and #1 Johns back to back at Great Crossing was pretty impressive. On the road and this is late post anyway, so enough chit chat. Enjoy. Rankings_22_23_0120.pdf

I could get on board with that. Then 3 divisions top 4 from each creates a second 12 team event. That could be a fire event where every round has excitement. 3rd and 4th weekends of January.

I'm only thinking about competitor safety. You can't question safety issues.

Late tonight or early tomorrow. A LOT of movement.

There we go GOO. Good thinking.

I am at one of the smaller schools that sponsor wrestling in the state. And while I agree there are things to be gained by having divisions, everyone has to agree there is a line. To say Ohio has 3 divisions as an discussion point for why we should have 3 begs the response for total number of schools participating at which point there is no comparison. Being at one of the smallest schools, I am not in favor of creating more divisions just so I can qualify and bring a trophy back to the school. I thought the 1A state duals were great. Mostly because we got the opportunity to face off with Union. If Union decided to "move up" to 2A or 3A it would have been a different story.

Exactly

Maybe 3 divisions. Might need one for seniors whose bodies are beat to death.

Yes, Boyle is very tough. WV beat them early in the year but they were shorthanded.

So we get to pick and choose which varsity matches count and which don't? Yes, Union County is by far the best team on paper in the state and likely most of the midwest. I think they should be nationally ranked. But for this event this weekend we have an established criteria and it was used to seed the event. Simple.

No big deal. All fixed. Hopefully, everyone now realizes you can't just let the computer randomly draw the teams in.

Go look at last year's state duals setup and then tell me who got screwed. The 2's get drawn in. Hard to see how Caldwell, FT Camp, and Nelson are affected by that seeding.

Nope. Varsity event loss.

The criteria as voted on by the coaches association is very clear and simple. Now I will admit a few coaches and I have been outspoken about this criteria for a few years now, but ...

Clear 1 seed. Not sure that I would equate that to favorite, but why not have a little fun with it.