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This only applies when vertical pairing is used. It has never applied to line bracketing.

Except for the fact that if it is truly part of the same tournament, team points would carry over. The fact that you can lose a match one week and win a state title the next week also suggests they are two very different tournaments. State champs don't lose a match in the state tournament, historically. Just because the KHSAA calls a potato an apple doesn't make it one.

This is not mandated by track, this is mandated by your local State Association. Missouri already does this and holds coaches accountable for not putting in results. But, MSHSAA is the one who tells Trackwrestling their procedures. You can have 2 weigh in sheets open, if results or weights are not entered then you are locked out. Track will only do what it is told by the associations, therefore it is not a Trackwrestling problem but a KHSAA problem. All results and weigh ins sheets are verified at district seeding meeting.

Same reason the KHSAA isn’t doing an awards ceremony at State or listening to feedback. They don’t care about wrestling.

I love this conversation about hold backs. Let's flip the coin. I've got 3 boys. All of them turned 18 after their last season of sports or will turn 18 after their last season. My oldest turned 18 a week after placing at the state tournament for the 2nd time in a row(March). Turned down multiple athletic scholarships to join the work force. Makes a ton of money for a 19 almost 20 year old now and will be eligible to retire when he is 48. My middle turns 18 during the region baseball tournament his senior year(May). He has been all district, region, area and has multiple scholarship opportunities in baseball. My youngest turns 18 2 weeks before the district baseball tournament his senior year(April). He was also all district, region, area, in 2 sports and good lord willing will have scholarship opportunities as well when he is a senior. Started on time, finished on time and all were successful. I didn't take the time when they were in 3rd grade or 4th or 5th or 6th to hold them back. By the time they were in 7th I couldn't hold them back without them sitting out a year per KDE and KHSAA guidelines. Then covid hits and our school system didn't allow covid holdbacks. So... Hooray for the kids and parents that do it on time and are successful! P.S. Could each of them been better off being held back? Possibly. Did I or do I go to games or matches and say well he's only 17 and a senior or 16 and a junior or 15 and a sophomore? No. Does anyone care? Doubtful.

Yeah, but we've never had to make changes to the state tournament because of a pandemic either. Regardless, if the KHSAA says it's the first round of the state tournament then it's the first round of the state tournament. They can make it any format they wish. It's their tournament. Just think of it as the qualifying heat, like in track or swimming. The top eight advance regardless of who beat who.

Relax, Ryle runs a great tournament. Kickemout runs a better tournament than the KHSAA with fewer people. We have a few dads we have to keep a close eye on, 44Dad and Ranchy have the attention span of a field mouse and need help from our youth wrestlers just to make sure the ref knows the time. Gameface is on the sound system some good some bad and we can not forget the voice of the Raiders who traveled with Kickemout to Simon Kenton last week to run the regional tournament.

This is a section of Cole Thomas’s season. Shows his only loss to a badass from LaSalle. He has a 99.5 ranking.

Maybe in Eastern KY they are… Nobody is knocking your kid or any of the (Hold Back Kids) but when you guys come on here talking about how proud you are for winning a MS tournament or winning/placing at a HS tournament as an 15 year old 8th grader it tends to aggravate the kids and parents who don’t hold their kids back and are truly wrestling their age or up a weight class. You said he always wrestles up but last year at MS State he weighed in using the 2lb allowance at 113 that’s not Wrestling up… Wrestling up would be wrestling 121lb Again not knocking your kid he’s pretty good but the best thing you guys could do is what the western part of the state does and not chime in on these arguments or not post stuff to bring the attention to it. Good Luck to yours and all the kids this weekend and next

True, but regions are based on geography, there's nothing reasonable we can do about it. Seeding, or not seeding, is a choice. We're clearly making the lazy choice. The NFL, MLB and NBA also restrict who makes the playoffs based on conferences and divisions. But they don't just randomly draw the playoffs bracket once the regular season is over. Because that would be dumb and no one would accept it.

What happened in region 3? A kid got DQ? Or forfeit? 113 bracket. As someone said above what happen to Woodfords Luke Hill? How about Herbst at 120. Like seeing these 7th graders in there. Herbst. Livingston. Roberts.

RankWrestlers has flaws for sure. It is track. I was just showing that that Ohio and Indiana do put results in. You put in the 16 wrestlers for state and it will seed them pretty damn close. They might have to wrestle a regional opponent again in the 1st round, but that’s just how it works. I just hate seeing Deck vs Adams and Johnson vs Sheffer at 9am when they deserved to be on the big stage.